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Porsche 911 Lease Questions

222 messages,  Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 11:01 AM

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What is this discussion about? Porsche 911, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: Car Man Please Help [Car_man] by bosco42
Apr 13, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 09, 2009 2:33 am)

Going with a C2S instead of C4S
MSRP- $102,460
Selling Price- $92,150
 
So if the money factor is .00146 and the residual is 56% for 10K/yr, then is a lease price of $1292 which includes my taxes (8.625%) a good lease price ?? He claims he is selling it to me at about invoice for calculating the lease.
 
Dealer denies there is any "cash incentive" and says he is relying on the "holdback" money.
 
Thanks
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Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42] by madmanmoo
Apr 14, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 13, 2009 6:02 pm)

No cashback on a lease. You are getting an aggressive rate which is bought down.
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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 14, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 14, 2009 7:30 am)

"You are getting an aggressive rate which is bought down."
 
What do you mean by this ? Dont quite understand what being bought down means...thanks
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Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42] by madmanmoo
Apr 15, 2009 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 14, 2009 12:56 pm)

3.9% is a special rate which is bought down from the real market rate. Instead of using cash back directly, Porsche applies it to your rate.
 
For example, there is no such thing as free money (0%), the manufacturer is using incentive cash to buy down the rate to that level.
 
Make sense?
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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 15, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 15, 2009 9:49 am)

So if there is no cash incentive (cash back to dealer) and the dealer is selling it to me at invoice where is he making money ??.....getting it from holdback money ?
 
In previous posts here it was stated that there were cash incentives to the dealer...was this an incorrect statement. it is important to know so I know how to negotiate my deal....thanks
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Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42] by madmanmoo
Apr 15, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 15, 2009 10:34 am)

In previous posts here it was stated that there were cash incentives to the dealer...was this an incorrect statement.
 
No, there are cash incentives which only apply to cash purchases. Lease and finance incentives are in the form of a special rate.
 
I'm not sure why it matters how they are making their money. If you like the deal and they are willing to sell it to you for that amount, do business. Don't worry about where their profit is coming from.
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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 15, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 15, 2009 12:01 pm)

I am not worried about where their profit is coming from..just trying to understand the system which then allows me to understand how to negotiate better....thanks for all your explanations..I appreciate it your time
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Accuracy of posted residuals by bosco42
Apr 17, 2009 (2:44 am)
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Car Man......from the dealers I have spoken with the residual numbers differ from what you have posted.....are you sure yours are accurate ??
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Re: Accuracy of posted residuals [bosco42] by noahsdad
Apr 17, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 17, 2009 2:44 am)

i have checked with dealers...they seem to accurate. many dealers are trying to pad the .00146 buy rate, so beware
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residuals by bosco42
Apr 17, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Is there an official online source that quotes the residuals
 
I was told by 2 dealers that the residual was 55% on an 09 C2S coupe with 10K per year
 
"Hi glbmw. Dealers that have certificates available can offer the following terms. Porsche's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C2 Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00146 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 911 C2 Coupe S are .00146 and 56%. The numbers for an '09 911 C4 Coupe are .00146 and 56%."

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