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Re: Merc Mariner Hybrid Bad Mileage [smrekar]
by rgheere
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Jan 25, 2008 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: smrekar (Feb 10, 2007 6:23 pm)
yes i just started dealing with the local mercury dealer about my MPG and the general manager for the dealership told me i just have to except the MPG in the winter time. i got up and told him Bull Crap, i can see a drop of a mile or two during the winter time, but not 8-9 mph??
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Re: Merc Mariner Hybrid Bad Mileage [rgheere]
by transpower
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Jan 26, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: rgheere (Jan 25, 2008 4:14 pm)
Most of the year I obtain 26-32 mpg with my 2008 AWD Mariner Hybrid. However in January the mileage has dropped below 26 to 25 mpg. Your mileage of 21-22 seems very low. I understand the loss in battery efficiency due to cold weather, but your drop is too much. There may be something else going on...
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Re: Merc Mariner Hybrid Bad Mileage [transpower]
by beartraprr
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Jan 26, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: transpower (Jan 26, 2008 8:41 am)
I live in South Florida where it does not ever drop below 50 degrees. The highest I have EVER gotten is around 25, it usually sits around 21 - 23 MPH, and this time of year I do not use the a/c and am light on the foot. Its all part of my disappointment with this vehicle. Then Ford says "Oh Well, some do good some don't". I have driven Fords all my life, this Mariner is my last because of their attitude more than anything else. They wonder why they are losing money, its things like this and he original problems when I bought the vehicle. See http://www.marinerhybrid.net/ for that whole story.
John
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Re: Can't Find a Hybrid [johndix60]
by rgheere
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Jan 28, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: johndix60 (Oct 30, 2007 11:48 am)
How did you get the address to contact Alan Mulally?
i have a 2008 mariner hybrid and the last 4 weeks my mpg has dropped from 29-31 to 22-23. the dealership just wants us to except it due to the cold weather, i can see some drop with the weather but not this much.
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Mileage Drop
by bigt
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Feb 23, 2008 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: rgheere (Jan 28, 2008 12:06 pm)
Someone said something about gasoline reformation during the winter. My Licoln MKZ has dropped about 3-5 mpg since the winter started.
BTW: Sorry to hear about the Navigation system in the MHH because the Nav in the MKZ is first-rate. You would think they would have shared this across the vehicles since it cost about the same.
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Re: Mileage Drop [bigt]
by baysailor
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Feb 24, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Feb 23, 2008 2:16 pm)
All gas in the Mid-Atlantic gets reformulated (not reformation) during the winter months to reduce the amount of pollutants, which don't get dispelled as quickly during the cold of winter with standard gasoline. This is required by the EPA. They blend in varying amounts of ethanol, which burns cleaner but reduces you gas milage. Since we just bought our MMH last month, I'm waiting to see how well it does in the spring when things warm up and they change the gas back to a normal formulation, which I think happens in April.
I never saw the Nav system in the MMH 06/07 variants, but it was supposed to be pretty clunky. The Nav system in the 2008's is first rate, except for the annoying fact that the information entry is pretty restricted when you're underway. You can't enter a destination address once you're in drive. What an irritating big-brother kind of restriction!
JRG
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The Flying Dutchman?
by cracovian
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Mar 03, 2008 (10:55 am)
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I don't pay attention to "American" cars too often but I thought I'd give this Mercury (or its Ford equivalent) a look. I saw a couple of them on the road but they're nowhere to be found as far as dealer stocks go. I recall they couldn't give the last model away. Are they this hot now or did Ford just go GM's way where they produce a very limited number of alternatives, so they can advertise their other hogs in the green context?
Is my only realistic choice a Toyota which sells a ton but it also seems to keep their dealers well-supplied?
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RE: Navigation System
by fomocona
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Mar 04, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: baysailor (Feb 24, 2008 10:05 am)
I don't think it's a form of big brother watching. Ford and other manufacturers must consider government guidelines in many design decisions. This is particularly true for navigation system features that may be distracting to drivers while the vehicle is in motion. That's why most if not all the vehicles sold in the US with a factory installed navigation system will not allow destination input while the vehicle is moving. Often pro-active, voluntary compliance avoids even stricter government mandates.
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RE: Navigation System [fomocona]
by beartraprr
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Mar 04, 2008 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: fomocona (Mar 04, 2008 12:09 pm)
I disagree...I think they do it to avoid a lawsuit in case one has an accident while trying to program it. ESPECIALLY if they have the awful 2006 system that I have. That very navigation system is the reason I will NEVER AGAIN EVER own another Ford Product. In addition to not putting a piece of junk into the vehicle, they should make it programmable for the passenger if there is one there, after all they already have a sensor in the seat that deactivates the airbag.
In case its so far back in the strong read this website (Mine) about my Mariner experience. Also I have never gotten over 23 mph in this vehicle and as a 59 year old driver I am very light on the Gas/electric.
http://www.marinerhybrid.net/
I have owned Fords exclusively since I started driving back in the 60's. Their Loss, my next car will be a Lexus.
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RE: Navigation System [beartraprr]
by johndix60
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Mar 04, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: beartraprr (Mar 04, 2008 12:34 pm)
It sounds like you did not evaluate the Nav system as part of your test drive checklist on the 2006 mariner Hybrid. Tough to complain about an option whose performance attributes ( negative though they may be ) were in front of you prior to purchase.
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