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#5174 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [lexusrx350new]
by valueguy
Aug 14, 2012 (4:42 pm)
My 2013 RX 350 was NAV vehicle. It still came with crappy Dunlop tires. IMHO, the Michelin tires are worth every one of $400 dollars over those Dunlops. I got the Michelin tires at NO ADDITIONAL COST so why not demand the swap? Instead, the Dunlop tires make any deal at least $400 different if one must get the Dunlop tires (in my opinion anyway).
That said, with AWD I would consider an additional $400 as compensation in any deal for getting Dunlop tires. On a FWD Lexus the Dunlop tires are unacceptable at any price (at least here in Florida where wet traction means life or death on the road). DO NOT ACCEPT DUNLOP TIRES ON A FWD RX 350.
#5175 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [valueguy]
by lexusrx350new
Aug 15, 2012 (6:53 am)
Make sure that someone checked the alignment and balancing after they swapped the tires. It wont be noticeable in the beginning but over time, you will realize that your tires are wearing unevenly and/or vibrating and by that time, its too late. I got mine checked after the tire swap and found an issue that needs to be corrected with the alignment/balancing. Its a trade off i guess, good tires but not factory aligned OR factory aligned but bad tires... lol.. There are a few internet posts that suggest that the bridgestones are better than the latitudes but tirerack still shows the michelins at 7.6 rating vs the bridgestones at 5.1 rating. Some posts suggest that the pilots are better than the latitudes and that the latitudes are junk and so, its all subjective. Cost of michelins and bridgestones is the same.
Do you have a light color interior like parchment or a dark interior like black? Reason for my question is how can i maintain my parchment interior like new without stains. Its so easy to get stains on this light color.
#5176 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [valueguy]
by nazzy100
Aug 15, 2012 (12:56 pm)
Tires:
Also, there is no manufacture's tread wear warranty at all on the Dunlop Grand Trek Touring A/S.
What is wrong with Lexus, putting a Tire with no warranty on a $45-50000.00 luxury car ???
The Michellin Lattitude and Pilot have a 55000 or 50000 mile warranty.
Bridgestone has a warranty, but not sure what.
#5177 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [lexusrx350new]
by valueguy
Aug 15, 2012 (2:22 pm)
I've gotten new tires on wheels before on cars after purchase. An alignment is usually unnecessary if all you do is change out the wheels/tires. A wheel balance may be indicated but not always.
A wheel balance costs about $30-40 at your local tire shop. If you need a wheel balance then the cost of this service ($40) is far less than the cost of a Michelin tire upgrade from the Dunlop tires.
My new Michelin tires run smoothly on my RX 350 but I will keep an eye out if they need a balance at 5,000 miles. This simple item can be performed during the first tire roatation.
I would not let the small possibility of a $75 alignment (not likely when swapping out identical wheels and sized tires) or a $40 Wheel balance (more likely) prevent you from requesting Michelin tires on your brand new RX 350.
#5178 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [valueguy]
by nazzy100
Aug 15, 2012 (3:50 pm)
For others perhaps just joining this thread, that I think Valueguy started:
If you go to TireRack.com, and bring up the Dunlop GrandTouring A/S 235/55r/19
and read the numerous reviews there, you will see a majority needing to replace at around 22000-25000, and most claim they do the rotations and recommended care. And there is no adjustment for those folks, since NO warranty on wear, by Dunlop.
Lots of variables of course on how each drives a car, understood, but, for Dunlop to have NO warranty (mileage) tread, I think we can see what's going on there.
And, that tire(Dunlop) is listed at $195 each, installed, in the SW here, by Discount Tire. Hard to believe.
Why is Lexus putting a bunch of those on 2010- 2013 Rx 's ? Expense deal no doubt.
#5179 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [valueguy]
by lexusrx350new
Aug 15, 2012 (5:38 pm)
Agreed, in your case specifically, cant go with dunlops as the drive will not be close to a michelin smooth drive in my opinion. Alignment and balancing factors should not affect getting michelins particularly if you are getting no warranty dunlops. I would not have bought my rx if the dealer was not willing to swap the stock bridgestones with michelins although the bridgestones are better than dunlops and come with warranty. The alignment issue if any, is ok compared to not getting michelins.
#5180 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [lexusrx350new]
by nazzy100
Aug 15, 2012 (6:25 pm)
I couldn't believe it either, as I don't think I've heard of a name brand tire, with Zero warranty on tread wear.
I specifically called Discount Tire, the Real Manager, whose has been here 15 years, and asked if that was true, and he did indeed confirm it to be true. So, I then called Costco, and asked the same question and also got the same answer. Both places said Lexus went with that tire because it was supposed to be extra quiet...even though no tread warranty . I don't buy that, or else they would put all their cars with it... ? I don't think so. They knew it had no warranty, but threw in on a few to keep the complaints down. It's probably a very soft tire..thus wears easily ?
And, there is the buyer who replaces his car every two years, or one year leases, etc. No complaints there as those folks turn the car in and walk away. And folks who don't drive much, like we have here in my city.
By the way, when checking with the tire places, I did state, Dunlop GrandTrek Touring A/S 19 inch, 235/55R/19 . I can't speak for their 18 version on the Lexus RX 2010-2013 350/FWD or AWD as I didn't ask on that one.
By the way, both places as well as Tire Rack, confirmed. Lexus shows these at all three places, as replacement tires, as well as the Michelins, Lattitudes, Pilots, and Bridgestones.
Note:
It's important to know here, for those that do have the Dunlops, that there is NO known safety issue here at all.
None of the reviews had any remarks about blowouts, or other safety issues. This is just about a non- warranty on tread wear on these tires. And the fact, Lexus put a cheaper brand tire on a very popular Luxury car in their line when there were other better brands with warranties available to them for all their cars.
#5181 of 5517 Re: Price paid for 2013 RX 350 FWD [overland0715]
by tonyca
Aug 15, 2012 (6:53 pm)
Hello All:
I got an offer for RX350 FWD with PD FT 3T WU NV HS PA plus ZI Accessory. MSRP is $48,494 and their offer is $43,756 plus TTL, so the discount is $4,738. I know overland you got MSRP $47,974 one for $42,783 ($46,357 with TTL) with discount $5,191.
How do you guys think about this offer and how much room can I negotiate?
Thanks.
#5182 of 5517 advice needed in NC
by sam4unc1
Aug 15, 2012 (7:42 pm)
I have an offer of 43,300 for a 2013 awd Lexus display audio pkg, heated an ventilated seats,intuitive parking assist,premium pkg,cargo mat cargo net and wheel locks MSRP 46,430 is this a good deal?
#5183 of 5517 Re: Advice on Tires [lexusrx350new]
by valueguy
Aug 16, 2012 (8:38 am)
1. You guys are getting great deals on these RX350s. It was like pulling teeth getting $3500-$4000 off a $49,000 MSRP RX 350. Anyone getting $4500-$5200 off is a superstar and should be buying my next car.
2. My 2010 RX 350 with Michelin Tires that had over 50,000 miles on them drove better in the sun and the rain than the brand new Dunlop tires. When we swapped them out for new Michelin tires even my wife noticed the difference immediately.
3. Please notice how helpful our real world info/cost is compared to TruCar or Edmunds. We now know TruCar isn't a reliable site any longer for invoice.
Dealers have solved this problem by having 2 invoice price lists. One for the public and one one where Manufacturers directly rebate the dealer for each car sold (not listed anywhere, secret info).