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#66 of 78 Re: Pickup Choices: Chevy Duramax or Dodge Ram? [dooleyboy] by kentaco Jan 03, 2008 (8:19 pm)
Replying to: dooleyboy (May 27, 2006 11:01 am) Chevy Duramax engines are great, but Dodge Cummins is American made if that has any influence over your decisions. Duramax are made by ISUZU in Japan by a GM/ ISUZU joint venture called DMAX limited. My friend has a Duramax in his 2006 Sierra 2500 HD. He likes it but he says he only gets 11 or 12 miles to a gallon. I guess Cummins won't get much better. Replies to this message: joeboston (Jan 04, 2008 10:50 am) cbrents (Jun 12, 2009 12:36 pm) moparman6 (Nov 01, 2008 4:49 pm)
#67 of 78 Re: Pickup Choices: Chevy Duramax or Dodge Ram? [kentaco] by joeboston Jan 04, 2008 (10:50 am)
Replying to: kentaco (Jan 03, 2008 8:19 pm) Not only is the Duramax made right here on American soil it is built by GM. When GM sold it's share of Isuzu some time back it kept all ownership of the Duramax. Just so you are not confused the Duramax was jointly developed by GM and Isuzu. Car companies do this from time to time to save on developement cost. And since GM owned part of Isuzu why not.   As for MPG:   Mine is a 2003 2500HD Crew Cab. While towing at 13K High profile Fifth Wheel Camper I get 11 to 12 MPG (70 MPH). When not towing I can get 21 to 22 MPG if I keep my leg out of the injectors.   Joe Replies to this message: cbrents (Jun 12, 2009 12:36 pm)
#68 of 78 Re: Dodge or no Dodge? [celestemitch] by 2tired4kids Mar 24, 2008 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: celestemitch (Jun 20, 2006 2:02 pm) My son has a 2008 1 ton Dodge fully loaded. 3200 miles. When he took his truck in for warranty repair on the transmition, they said no way would they warranty it, problem is due to abuse. He got stuck in a snow pile in Park City Ut. Now how in the heck can a transmition go out in a 1 ton getting out of a snow pile?? He took it to another place that specializes in transmissions, which he has to eat the cost and the owner told my son that he has 20, repeat 20 Dodge 1 tons sitting in his yard for repair, that Dodge will not warranty. He further stated that in his 45 years in business that Dodge 1 ton transmitions will not hold up- ever, they way they are. When he gets his truck repaired, he will be trading it in on a Duramax which is what he owned before. Oh by the way, at the time he worked for a Dodge dealer, as a technician. So beware of Dodge 1 ton.
#69 of 78 I need some advice by sc2 Aug 03, 2008 (6:45 pm)
I'm considering purchasing my first diesel. I am seriously considering the Duramax/Allison combo but have had several friends report only getting approximately 12 mpg. I like the ride and interior of the GM as opposed to the Dodge...However last week I went fishing with a friend in his Dodge (programmed with a Bullydog and upgraded tourque converter) and that truck screemed. We averaged over 20 mpg and he could smoke the tires without trying. I like the idea of the Cummons but I'm not sure about the Iason tranny. The GM seems to be holding it's value a bit better but the Cummons was a really strong motor. I will be towing toys (boat, bikes, and 4 wheelers). Any suggestions? Thanks
#70 of 78 Thanks for the responses by sc2 Aug 06, 2008 (4:05 pm)
I asked for the advise between the GM and Dodge a few days ago. To go a bit deeper, I'm going to buy a 4x4 crew cab (kids are all grown and don't need a mega) in Utah the GMC's are really holding their values. I passed on a 07 Dodge yesterday with 7,800 miles on it for 28K (I'm still wondering if I did the right thing) I have located an 06 GMC that I'm seriously considering for about 27K. I'll be pulling toys with it and that's about it. How have your experiences with programmers vs chips been? This GM has a bullydog (generally I see the Edge in GM products and the Bullydog in the Dodge) but the milage is showing close to 20+. Would you go chip or programmer? Gages to monitor temps or program it and forget it? I won't be smoking the tires on it (much) but I'm concerned about the chip or programmer shortening the life of the engine. Thanks again
#71 of 78 Looking for a new truck by madison4 Aug 13, 2008 (5:59 pm)
Hello, and thank you for reading my post.   I live in Atlanta, and will be moving to Colorado this year. I have two trucks, an 01 F150 Supercrew, and a 94 F250 XLT Diesel. Both are two wheel drive, so I am selling both.   I am also hearing that diesel 250s, 2500s, 350's and 3500 are selling at 40% to 50% off sticker based on drop in demand. True ?   I do know my next truck will be a diesel, and 4 wheel drive. Here is where I need help.   1. As I am moving from a warm climate to a cold climate, should I shop for dealer stock only in colder states to be sure the truck on the lot has block heaters and other cold weather specific applications ?   2. In a couple of years, I may buy a fifth wheel camper. A local dealer said to get a 3 ton series dually. But, having driven two, I just don't find dually's to my preference. I will be using the truck on a hobby farm with horses. Does a dual rear wheel make a big difference ?   3. Ok, now for the religiuous questions. I have never owned a Dodge. My first truck was a GMC, with my two current trucks as Fords. A local Dodge dealer (depending on answers to question one) appears to have the most aggressive pricing. But I know the 09 Dodge will change body styles.   So, for a truck used 50% for driving, 35% for work and 15% for hauling, a 2 ton or 3 ton ? Dually or single ? and which brand ?   4. Can any of there trucks run biodiesel with no modifications or with modifications that do not void a warranty ?   5. For the Chevy fans, what is the difference in a GMD and Chevy ?   Thanks   Chip Replies to this message: obyone (Aug 13, 2008 6:47 pm)
#72 of 78 Re: Looking for a new truck [madison4] by obyone Aug 13, 2008 (6:47 pm)
Replying to: madison4 (Aug 13, 2008 5:59 pm) For the Chevy fans, what is the difference in a GMD and Chevy ?   GMC has lock washers and Chevy doesn't.   One thing for sure if you're looking for a 4x4 I'd buy it in a warmer state that doesn't need 4x4 as the pricing should be better compared to an area that needs 4x4.   The SRW 350s or 3500 are rated to haul and tow more than a dually. The benefit to a dually is stability of the load and not a higher tow or haul rating.   Better buy it now before gas and diesel prices drop anymore resulting in people buying trucks again.
#73 of 78 Re: Pickup Choices: Chevy Duramax or Dodge Ram? [kentaco] by moparman6 Nov 01, 2008 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: kentaco (Jan 03, 2008 8:19 pm) WRONG!!! I have a 2001 3500 with a 5.9 cummins and I average 18.5 on the back roads and 20 on highway I have heard the chevys get poor mileage ( not surprising chevy's are junk) but if it's any consolation the new fords are getting 8 to 10mpg! Want a real diesel buy a dodge with the cummins!!
#74 of 78 Its all about the transmission. by trucktricks Nov 13, 2008 (11:14 am)
If you are looking for a 3/4 or 1-ton package that is not going to break, there is ony one choice. Ford and Dodge use warmed over car automatic transmissions. Chevy and GMC use a transmission that is used in 33,000 # heavy duty trucks built by Freightliner, Navistar, Peterbilt etc.   My brother-in-law is the service manager at a very reputable auto/truck repair center here in the mid-west. He says that he sees lots of F-350's and Rams for tramsmission problems and the repairs are VERY expensive. They never see a problem with the Allison in the Chevy and GMC. He claims it basically goes forever.   Looks like a no-brainer to me. Replies to this message: shoulderboards (May 05, 2009 8:13 am)
#75 of 78 Reading these are funny. by carny92 Nov 19, 2008 (5:16 pm)
It is funny how one person has problems with one and others with the different ones. I own a 95' Ford and a 96' Ford F350's and a Dodge 1 Ton all with diesel motors.   On the 95' Automatic have had quite a few problems with only 168k miles on it. The 96' just general maintence with 268k miles on it. Manual transmission, Same rear ends, and they both get about the same fuel mileage pulling close to the same loads.   Now the 2000 Dodge that I have has had the same injector problem that I read someone else has had. Mine was $3400 with the conversion kit, and already had problems after about another 30k miles on it. Everyone always told me they got 20 to 25mtg, Mine is 4x4 and it only gets 17 when it is strictly hwy miles no load, 10 to 15 with a load. Both my Fords pull my 50' Fifth wheel way better that that dodge does. Now if it was a manual it prob would be better, I really don't like auto's pulling.   I once had a 1990 Dodge with a 360 in it that the odometer stopped at 220k miles and I know I put another 30 or so on it before I parked it. It would still start after just sitting there, it only got 8 mpg so the Diesels took over. I think I am going to try a Chevy the next go around.... lol. New Fords are getting 5 to 10 mpg with those twin turbos. Replies to this message: jcharl91 (Oct 01, 2009 11:39 am)

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