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Lexus ES 350 Lease Questions

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Re: Lexus ES 350 Lease question [bandj] by Car_man HOST
Dec 24, 2008 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: bandj (Dec 10, 2008 7:49 am)

Hi bandj. According to the latest information that I have seen, Lexus Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 ES 350 with 15,000 miles per year are .00090 and 51%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier.
 
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Re: ES350 lease in ATL [sebast23] by Car_man HOST
Dec 24, 2008 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: sebast23 (Dec 10, 2008 6:56 pm)

Welcome back, sebast23. It's nice to see that you're helping your mother lease her new car. Her credit is in good shape, so she should qualify for Lexus Financial Services top aka "Tier 1+" credit tier. According to the latest information that I have seen, LFS' December buy rate lease money factor for the 2009 ES 350 is .00090.
 
As far as this car's selling price goes, shoot for as close to dealer invoice minus any available cash incentives as possible. You can look up this model's exact dealer invoice price over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com. December is turning out to be a terrible month for new vehicle sales, even for Lexus. The sales at one local Lexus dealer that I spoke with are off 50% from December of last year. This works to your advantage in negotiations.
 
The last time that I checked, LFS charged a $600 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases. You can either pay this fee at lease signing or have it rolled into your car's capitalized cost to bake it into your monthly payment. If the dealer is trying to charge a $599 "dealer fee" on top of this, it is nothing more than a way for them to try to add hidden profit to your deal. Try to have them eliminate the fee. If they give you the whole, legally we have to charge it to everyone pitch just have them lower your car's selling price by that amount.
 
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Re: December to Remember "specials"? [merlion0821] by Car_man HOST
Dec 24, 2008 (3:28 am)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 14, 2008 6:00 am)

Greetings merlion0821. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
In short, the best way to get a good deal on a leased vehicle is to negotiate as low a selling price as possible on the vehicle that you want and then have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor. Manufacturers' official advertised lease specials are usually decent deals, however savvy consumers who are in an area that has a decent level of competition are usually able to negotiate lower selling prices than the one that was used to arrive at the advertised payment and in turn get a better monthly payment on their lease.
 
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Organized Negotiation of 5-8 Lexus before Jan 1st by scoutandatty
Dec 24, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Dec 24, 2008 3:21 am)

Hey Car Man,
 
Thanks for all the help! This forum helped me to negotiate a pretty good deal on a 2009 RX 350 from a dealer that has lots of inventory of 2008s & 2009s. It occurred to me that the slow economy (Lexus sales are 35% - 50% lower than last year) have caught dealers with large inventories by surprise - and placed them in a vulnerable position. I'd like your advice on how to take maximum advantage of this buyer's market and strike the most aggressive deals possible by combining a number of purchases together under one deal.
 
I've been gathering a few people who are interested in buying/leasing a Lexus before the end of December (to take advantage of Lexus' December financing specials) but am unsure exactly what motivates a dealer to clear inventory at a loss and a salesman to agree to significant discounts in order to generate more sales before the end of December.
 
What options does a Lexus dealer have in clearing large inventory of 2008 models that isn't moving? Can it sell them to a partner at a discount, or does it have to sell to the public?
 
What type of financial pressures is the dealer under for month/year end sales?
 
In light of Toyota's devastating losses reported yesterday and a large inventory, do you think the dealer would be willing to take a significant loss on invoice in order to clear 5-8 cars before the end of the month/year?
 
Since Lexus has been discounting MSRP by up to 20% - I expect that a much larger discount would be considered if there are a number of sales made in a short amount of time - and of autos that aren't moving. Since none of us "need" the deal, we're only willing to do the deals if we're getting a significant discount - 40%.
 
Similarly - what carrot and stick does a Lexus salesperson have in selling 5-8 before the end of December? There must be a bonus based on number of sales vs. profit per car & there are likely going to be layoffs for lower performers.
 
Thanks for your feedback.
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January numbers by thechairman1
Jan 03, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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Hi car man.
 
Interested in the 2009 ES 350. What are the current residual and money factor for the 2009 at 36 months and 12,000 miles per year? Many thanks.
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Re: Organized Negotiation of 5-8 Lexus before Jan 1st [scoutandatty] by Car_man HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: scoutandatty (Dec 24, 2008 9:18 am)

You're welcome, scoutandatty. Dealers aren't necessarily going to take a loss, certainly not a significant one, on a vehicle to blow it out at the end of the year, but they are often motivated to make their annual sales totals look as attractive as possible. Perhaps they need to attain a certain level of annual sales to receive a bonus payment from the manufacturer that they are affiliated with.
 
The main reason why it is a good idea to lease a new vehicle at the end of the year is the level of manufacturer support that is available then is generally higher as manufacturers crank up their support to make their annual sales totals look as attractive as possible. Lexus' "December to Remember" sales event is an example of this. The lease program that Lexus was offering in December is much more attractive than the one that it is running in January.
 
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Re: January numbers [thechairman1] by Car_man HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: thechairman1 (Jan 03, 2009 5:20 pm)

Hi thechairman1. Here's the information that you're looking for. Lexus Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 ES 350 with 12,000 miles per year are .00125 and 49%, respectively. Current ES lessees are eligible for a special $1,000 loyalty cash incentive if they lease a new one.
 
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February money factor by hotjohn
Feb 03, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Hi Car_man,
I'm currently looking for the buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 ES 350 with 12,000 miles per year. I did see what the January numbers were but since it's now February I'm looking for the new rates. Any incentives out yet? Location is Las Vegas who only has one Lexus dealer. Thanks
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Recent lease deals in NYC-area?? by marlonsams
Feb 04, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Wanted to hear from community about recent lease deals they got on a 09 ES with premioum plus w/o navi(NYC/Tri-State area).
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Leasing by bobpro98
Feb 05, 2009 (7:14 pm)
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Hi Car Man,
    I'm Planning On Leasing A Lexus 2009 ES350 For 48 Months With 25,000 Miles Per Year At 684.00/Month.The Upfront Payment With 1St Payment & All The Other Fees Is 1882.00.The MSRP Is 37499.00.The Dealer Is In New Jersey.Am I Doing The Right Thing? I Would Appreciate Your Input.
 
  Bobpro98

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