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Lexus ES 350 Lease Questions

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by fusilli
Aug 15, 2008 (2:41 pm)
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This is my first venture into Japanese luxury cars. I have had 3 Corvettes (in my 20's, that was fun) and then 5 Benzes to follow. I haven't even taken this ES350 for a test drive! However, I do have a question...regarding the leasing. Is it true that dealerships use credit scores as a bargaining chip and that it really doesn't matter? Not that I have bad credit, but I always read that you don't tell them how good or bad your credit score is. What is Tier 1 pricing according to Lexus? Is it a perfect 850 credit score or are they more reasonable? I am in the mortgage biz, so credit scoring is something I know something about. I just want to know from a car buying/leasing perspective what the general guidelines are like. Thanks.
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Leasing 2008 ES350 by stanshrub
Aug 19, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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I am leasing 2008 ES 350 w/Ultra Luxury Package, Nav w/Mark Levinson and Intuitive Parking Assist in GA. 36 month/12K
MSRP 45285.
MF 0.00065.
Residual, I was told at one dealership that residual for Ultra Luxury Package is 50% and the other dealership told me it was at 52% (???).
The quote I get is 560 per month incl 7% GA tax.
No money down, just acquisition fee of 389 plus DMV fee of 41.
If the quote was done based on 50% Residual than Cap Cost is at 40000.
Payment ~ $523 + $37 tax.
My questions are:
What is a 'True' Residual value for this Model?
How good is this deal?
Do I have any more room to lower my payment?
 
Thanks,
 
Stan
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by fusilli
Aug 19, 2008 (6:03 pm)
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I guess we need to delve more into credit scores and pricing. Tiers, etc. That is the only way, truly, to see if one is getting a good deal on a lease or not. I just pulled my credit before I finally went and took an ES for a test drive. (by the way, liked it well enough to live with it for 36 months). My Beacon is 687 (not bad, used to be 720)...this should be decent enough to get pretty good pricing, don't you think? Someone needs to address the credit thing, because it is important to the leasing equation.
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Re: August 08 money factor and residual % on es 350 [gbh43] by Car_man HOST
Aug 20, 2008 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: gbh43 (Aug 11, 2008 1:32 pm)

Hi gbh43. I believe that they are, but I have not seen an actual lease program from a dealer in your state.
 
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Re: [fusilli] by Car_man HOST
Aug 20, 2008 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: fusilli (Aug 15, 2008 2:41 pm)

Hi fusilli. Credit scores definitely do matter when leasing. Most of the lease money factors that you see mentioned in this discussion are for consumers who qualify for Lexus Financial Services' "Tier 1+" credit tier. In order to qualify for this tier, consumers must have a credit score of something like 730 or higher. LFS' money factors for other credit tiers are higher.
 
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Re: [Car_man] by fusilli
Aug 20, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 20, 2008 2:29 am)

Thanks for the credit info. I knew they would be a factor, so I believe MY best bet would be to determine the pricing and then go from there. I have a quick verbal price of $33,500 (South Florida) and I believe the money factor and residual, from what I am reading, is set by the financial company, yes? I think with a score of 687, I should be in the ballpark and they'll hit me with a higher payment, but not that much higher that I can't live with it. Heck, being in the mortgage biz, and especially these days, not many have scores over 700.
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lexus.com ad for lease deal by spygame
Aug 20, 2008 (11:35 pm)
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hi,
first off i wanna say that i am new here, and new to the whole leasing process. reading the previous posts has given me some insight into the whole leasing procedure, but i still have a long way to go.
im thinking of jumping on the ES 350, $449 /month , with $0 due at signing( thats what the advertisement on lexus.com and the newspaper ad say)., 48 months and 10 k/year. The 4 years is the only thing that is really holding me back, 36 months sounded much better to me.
i spoke to the local dealer, and they said it comes to around $ 475 (with Kentucky taxes), and would owe out of pocket around $ 920 ( includes the first months payment, plus taxes and title). Haven't spoken to them about the entire breakdown, just wanted to get some opinions here, does that sound decent. This is ofcourse with the TIER 1 plus credit. The car offered is the with premium package without the Nav.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [fusilli] by Car_man HOST
Aug 21, 2008 (1:40 am)
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Replying to: fusilli (Aug 20, 2008 6:07 am)

You're very welcome, fusilli. Vehicles' residual values are set by banks and individual dealers do not have the authority to alter them. Money factors are slightly different though. Banks set vehicles' buy rate lease money factors. This is the lowest possible factor that dealers can charge. Dealers are often allowed to mark-up banks' buy rates to add additional hidden, back-end profit to deals. This is why it is a good idea to find out exactly what the buy rate should be for the vehicle that one is interested in prior to visiting dealers.
 
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Re: lexus.com ad for lease deal [spygame] by Car_man HOST
Aug 21, 2008 (1:44 am)
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Replying to: spygame (Aug 20, 2008 11:35 pm)

Welcome spygame. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
The best way to evaluate the deal that you were quoted is to find out what selling price the dealer is charging you for the car that you want. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Shoot for a selling price that is as close to dealer invoice as possible. Once you have arrived at a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer use Lexus Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor to calculate your monthly payment. LFS' current buy rate for a 36 to 48 month lease of an '08 ES 350 is .00065 for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier.
 
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Re: lexus.com ad for lease deal [Car_man] by fusilli
Aug 21, 2008 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 21, 2008 1:44 am)

Yep, that's how they get you in the door. Throw a monthly payment out for Tier 1+ credit scores. The payment creeps up from there. As I said before, lessees with a 730 credit score are not a robust group these days, so expect to pay a bit more with the money factor being tweeked. You can get out the door with one, but it'll cost you. Unlike housing, it seems to still be fairly easy to lease a car with okay to good credit. I'm learning fast, Carman! In the past, I've paid cash for a lot of my cars, but this will be my fourth lease, and I am bound and determined to learn how the process works. This forum has been great.

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