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#5066 of 5231 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [ateixeira] by hot2004 Sep 27, 2009 (10:51 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 15, 2009 9:53 am) I am following this forum already some time. So I knew how to get the best price thru internet department. But when I said, I found some Toyota dealers as dishonest, I meant it. They try to trap the customer with very attractive price and want the customers at their dealership. Once the customer is at their dealership, they starts playing games with numbers or finance options (they will tell you that you are not qualified for Toyota finance with low interest rate and try to push their own finance with higher interest rate) or even will try to sell a demo car for quoted new car price.   Did you ever heard that the dealer wants you to buy the car before they tell you if you are qualified for finance or not? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Sep 28, 2009 5:20 am)
#5067 of 5231 Re: Toyota Sienna XLE- Not Sure It's my favorite anymore [adiehl13] by ateixeira Sep 28, 2009 (5:17 am)
Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am) Garmin is the same as Hertz' system, in fact you can take it our of safe mode and not have to press any button at all.   Manufacturers should use the airbag sensor in the passengers seat - if a passenger is there the Nav screen should be unlocked automatically, because it means you have a co-pilot to enter destinations.   Voice commands help somewhat, but this is what all manufacturers should do.   Check out the Sienna Nav threads, people have figured out ways to hack the system, involving creating a hybrid DVD yourself.   I agree with your suggestion, though. They could learn from Garmin.
#5068 of 5231 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004] by ateixeira Sep 28, 2009 (5:20 am)
Replying to: hot2004 (Sep 27, 2009 10:51 pm) I had the dealer calculate an out-the-door price, with taxes and everything, before I ever stepped foot in the dealership (DARCARS 355 Toyota, Rockville, MD). They obliged. The price was accurate to the penny. I took a cashier's check and that was that, no nonsense.   I did not have to finance, though. Rates will vary by your credit score. What I suggest is you get a rate quote before you go to the dealer, then have them match or beat it.   There are also no-haggle dealers that take some pressure off, here in the Mid-Atlantic that includes Fitzmall.com and CarMax Toyota Laurel.   Best of luck.
#5069 of 5231 Earn Free Service by ateixeira Sep 28, 2009 (5:22 am)
Just got this offer in the mail:   http://experience.toyotarewardsvisa.com/   Interesting that someone was complaining about service being expensive - now you can get 5% back on any Toyota service plus 1% anywhere else. No cap at all, though.   Subaru has such a program but you get 3% back no matter where you shop, though they cap it at $500/year.
#5070 of 5231 Re: Toyota Sienna XLE- Not Sure It's my favorite anymore [adiehl13] by ateixeira Sep 29, 2009 (11:02 am)
Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am) And my chief annoyance complaint- the LOCKOUT on the Navigation   This user just shared a fix that may also help you, if you're still looking:   http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e6c06/178#MSG178
#5071 of 5231 Re: Sienna Seating [ateixeira] by pasodave Sep 30, 2009 (6:02 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2009 9:48 am) You said you had 8 seats for adults. Do eight adults fit "comfortably" of is it recommended just for short trips? Where ever I saw description that said 8-passenger, I eventually got something that "indicated" 6 adults and two children. Any thoughts or advice? Replies to this message: minniemouse27 (Oct 01, 2009 5:51 am) ateixeira (Oct 01, 2009 9:52 am) yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 10:28 am) minniemouse27 (Oct 01, 2009 10:34 am) ateixeira (Oct 01, 2009 10:36 am) yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 12:58 pm) and 3 more... pasodave (Oct 02, 2009 9:54 am) ateixeira (Oct 02, 2009 10:48 am)
#5072 of 5231 Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by minniemouse27 Oct 01, 2009 (5:51 am)
Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) We have two very large car seats in the outboard 2nd row seats of our 8 passenger and can easily fit an adult in the center between them (or another car seat!).   I don't think I would put an adult there (between the car seats) for a 10hr trip but I would think up to an hour or two would be fine.
#5073 of 5231 Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by ateixeira Oct 01, 2009 (9:52 am)
Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) I looked it up...   Per C&D's specs, the Sienna's interior has:   1st row: 66 cubic feet 2nd row: 60 cubic feet 3rd row: 51 cubic feet   That's pretty darn roomy.   For comparison's sake, I have the Feb 08 C&D issue in front of me, and I looked at the compact SUV comparison. The roomiest 2nd row of those 9 crossovers was the Jeep Liberty's, and that has 50 cubic feet in the 2nd row.   So the Sienna has more room in its 3rd row than even the roomiest soft roader has in its 2nd!   Unless you're talking about 8 NBA players you ought to fit just fine.   Also for reference, Honda's 2008 brochure says it has 171.4 cubic feet of passenger space in the LX and EX, and 168.3 cubes in the EX-L and above (the small loss is probably due to a moonroof, I'm guessing).   That's also quite good, but the Sienna's adds up to 177 cubes so it's a tad bigger.   The width of the 2nd row seats in the Sienna are 22" for the outer chairs and 20" for the middle chair.   My office chair is exactly 20" wide and I sit in it for 8-9 hours every day.   I haven't measured the 3rd row, but you may want to do that, better yet take the whole gang with you to sample it in person.   Best of luck.
#5074 of 5231 Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by yatesjo Oct 01, 2009 (10:28 am)
Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) The second row easily fits three child seats so I would have no problem putting 3 adults there for an extended trip (unlike the Odyssey's mother-in-law seat). I've had 3 adult men sit in the third row (one of them none too small) and they were perfectly comfortable for an in-town trip.   There is nothing "mini" about minivans these days. On a recent trip we visited people with 12 y/o Chrysler and 15 y/o Honda minivan. Our Sienna was significantly bigger than the Chrysler and dwarfed the Honda. Replies to this message: minniemouse27 (Oct 01, 2009 10:34 am) ateixeira (Oct 01, 2009 10:36 am) yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 12:58 pm) ateixeira (Oct 02, 2009 9:10 am) and 2 more...
#5075 of 5231 Re: Sienna Seating [yatesjo] by minniemouse27 Oct 01, 2009 (10:34 am)
Replying to: yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 10:28 am) In our case...our two outboard car seats are pretty large (a Sunshine Kids Monterey and a Britax Regent) so the center seat space is a bit smaller than if we had car seats w/ a slimmer footprint....hence why I wouldn't put an adult there for a 10hr trip (over and above the idea of them having to travel between an 8yo and 4yo for that length of time!).   I agree...the third seat is a "full size" seat and I have way more room there than in the back seat of our sedan (VW Jetta)!

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