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Toyota Camry Hybrid, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#943 of 1000 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [camry_fan]
Mar 13, 2012 (7:12 pm)
I noticed one of the 2012 Toyota Camry LE Hybrid Adds listed a cruising range (something like 615 miles, 15 * 41 mpg combined) that had a small footnote stating that it was based on 15 gallons. So I suspect that Toyota figures the last 2 gallons is a safety factor. If you use the whole 17 gallons you would get close to 700 miles.
I am on my first tank of gas and (2012 TCH LE) in hilly Seattle with winter conditions, winter gas (lower fuel energy value), an engine not yet broken, lots of short trips (<13 miles), mainly city driving, running in ECO mode I have averaged 38 mpg on the first 1/2 of the tank of gas. I have noticed as others have noted that the first warmup miles (lets say 3 miles), the mpg is much lower. Than if I keep driving the mpg goes up from about 25 for the trip ending at 38 average. I have tried some trips where I first warmed up the engine, restarted the car to start a new trip and have then gotten as high as 48-51 mpg city in ECO mode. So I am so far very optimistic that once the engine is broken in, summer fuel blend is available and I try driving a longer trip I will definitely get the kind of mpg the EPA ratings state or better. My previous car was a 2008 Acura TL Type S with 286 hp (17/26 EPA MPG, 92 octane only). So far I am loving waving at the gas stations as I drive by and figure I am cutting my fuel costs in 1/2. My TL got 20 mpg commuting (17 if I used the heated seats and auto climate control). So I am pumped about getting around 40 mpg and using 87 octane instead of 92.
#944 of 1000 Hw to get great TCH mileage whatever16
Mar 15, 2012 (7:27 pm)
Well, whatever16: I had the same question and couldn't find the answer written anywhere on the 2012 TCH. There are two (or maybe....technically only one) EV mode/s. The first is the pseudo EV mode that you will see on the highway when you come down off a hill and EV lights up on the left and the arrow points from the battery to the wheels. THIS EV mode can operate at higher speeds while the EV mode which is actuated by the EV button (next to the eco button) and lights up the upper right EV mode icon operates only a very low speeds and will stay engaged only if the battery is charged and a very light touch on the accelerator doesn't kick the motor on. A very delicate touch is needed to keep this "pure" EV mode going and the worst condition is starting up from a full stop. In traffic the EV SLOW START probably aggravates every other driver and it shows how much fuel everyone is dumping in stop and go driving with jack rabbit starts probably dumping 3 times as much fuel as an EV slow start in the TCH. On a route I travel several times a week I've learned to use EV mode (both kinds) in town, usually on routes where people can easily get around me (4 lane roads) and on streets where there is no traffic. IF I slow down I can get 50 MPG on this route where in the beginning I could only get 40mpg. The cost is time for it will take about 50% longer to get somewhere
Slowing down can't in general this can't be done on highway and city travel but even then you could be spending about 1/3 less at the pump with a hybrid.
#945 of 1000 2012 Camry Hybrid LE horsepower/top speed
Mar 15, 2012 (7:39 pm)
If you wonder why the 2012 TCH can hit 100 mph in a passing zone it's because the car probably has 300 HP between both engines. Top speed is supposedly a 'governed' 118 mph.
#946 of 1000 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG [whatever16]
Apr 27, 2012 (8:33 am)
I just bought my 2012 Camry Hybrid LE about 2 weeks ago and I too am getting about 33-35 mpg combined city/hwy on eco mode all the time. I try to put it in EV mode but for the most part, it shuts off right away, so whats the point?? I feel the battery pack doesn't hold that much charge at all. I love the way it drives but I think this is a sham because I have not gotten anywhere near their declared epa mileage at all and I tried hard not to jackrabbit nor speed up so fast at all. And that is without anything else in the car; no luggage, no passengers.
Yeah, so any tips would be nice. But I guess for now, I will try to hypermile it by following big rigs and hyperinflate my tires a bit. Hope this works!!
#947 of 1000 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG [dfunkt]
Apr 27, 2012 (9:50 am)
My credentials: Hybrid advocate since 2004. Prior owner of 2004 HCH, current owner (94K miles) of 2007 TCH.
Let me try to allay some of your fears.
First off, it's not a "sham" in ANY way. EPA mileage is an estimate - some people get more, some people get less - but NOTHING is guaranteed in life, including that an owner will *ALWAYS* achieve or surpass the EPA *ESTIMATED MPG*.
My lifetime mileage in my 2007 TCH is right around 34 MPG, so your results are not out of line at all.
Some people get better mpg, some get less.
Highway MPG for me personally is better than city. I have gotten as high as 44.88 MPG for a full highway tank to as low as 26.55 for a full highway tank.
EV mode works best at lower speeds, when the battery is full.
Learn how to "feather" the accelerator. Google it and all the instructions are there.
I have safely run my tires at 40 PSI without undue wear.
Your mileage may or may not improve over 33-35 MPG. But you still have the only Camry which can consistently achieve that figure.
#948 of 1000 2012 THC XLE mileage
Apr 29, 2012 (6:04 pm)
I have only had the 2012 THC XLE for 2 weeks and 600 miles but I must say I am very pleased. I have been averaging around 40 mpg in mixed city and highway driving. I have been just leaving it in ECO mode and haven't changed my driving style. It's still rather cold here in Wisconsin so I expect the mileage will only improve as it gets warmer and the engine continues to break in. I have only found 2 negatives concerning the car. First, are the tires that came on the car. They were Bridgestone Turanzos which are really junk tires. I traded them in on Michelin Primacy MXMRs. Second, there was a lot of wind noise coming from the drivers window when closed. They are replacing the window channel weather stripping which should take care of that problem.
#949 of 1000 Camry Hybrid 2009
May 04, 2012 (8:10 am)
Guys, I need your advice,
I've noticed that my TCH doesnt turn off the engine and switch to Electric mode fast even if the engine temperature is high, the only way to force the car to switch to electic is by stopping on the side for 3~5 seconds, then engine shuts down and I can drive on EV mode. Any idea what is causign this?
#950 of 1000 2012 Cambry Hybrid XLE - Early Numbesr
May 05, 2012 (5:27 am)
I drive about 70 miles a day with a mix of local, highway, and stop and go traffic (drive in early NYC rush hour). Only had the car for 500 miles but getting as advertised: 40.5 MPG. Admittedly I have a heavy foot at the start so I'm happy with what I've gotten thus far especially since I'm coming from a mini van. Tried the ECO mode a few times but the engine became too sluggish for my taste. Granted that's why the ECO mode is there, to improve your MPG, but part of the reason why I went for the hybrid was that it was peppier than the 2.4 cyl version and to to save 1 or 2 MPG I'll keep the peppiness. Used the EV in parking lots and some backed up highway merges so that was nice.
#951 of 1000 Re: 2012 THC XLE mileage [retired23]
May 07, 2012 (2:24 pm)
Hi, I am curious on the result of the wind noise reduction you mentioned. I also noticed the excessive wind noise on my 2012 Camry hybrid LE. Here is a link that people discuss this:　http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/310-7th-generation-2012/397399-ge- n-7-wind-noise-9.html．I have applied the change in the link and it may helped, but still not satisfied,
#952 of 1000 Re: 2012 THC XLE mileage [hbqiao]
May 09, 2012 (7:35 pm)
This is a little off topic but I was asked to post the result of having the driver's window glass channel replaced to reduce wind noise. It was a success. Immediately after having the glass channel replaced we drove 265 miles on the interstate and there was no wind noise comming from above the drivers window. Ninety percent of the trip was at 70 mph and I averaged 41.2 mpg. I am really pleased with the TCH.