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Toyota Camry Hybrid, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#936 of 984 Re: Great Mileage on 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE [wae1]
Feb 29, 2012 (3:20 pm)
There is a big difference of the drivability between normal and eco, I don't like the eco mode, and my normal mode drive in local only yields 35 +- in Altanta mild winter. The same time I can get 55+ out of my 2008 Prius, I don't think they are giving the right MPG on the sticker, we had such high hope before. But, the comfort and power is superior comparing to my little Prius.
#937 of 984 2012 Toy Cam Hyb LE mileages at 1300 miles
Mar 03, 2012 (11:13 pm)
45 mile roundtrips to town and back at normal traffic speed.....39 mpg (55 deg F) front tires 38psi, rear 44 psi). 45 mile roundtrips with newbie hypermiling coming uphill and using EV.....43 mpg. To and from LA (270 miles) at freeway speeds..jackrabbit lights...sticking with traffic.....39 mpg. (all computed with full tanks and division)
#938 of 984 2012 Toy Cam Hyb LE acceleration/cruise control
Mar 03, 2012 (11:27 pm)
These two items are not usually highlighted but deserve to be. The other evening there is a short stretch of passing lane here on the desert. I was surprised that passing two trucks brought the car to just touch the 100 mph mark! With this kind of power and a seamless transmission the car goes up and down hills using cruise control like a dream. It's possible under CC that you won't notice the engine coming on and turning off under normal driving. Be nice to your fellow drivers as they may not have this constancy and when one is hypermiling they could get very agitated. It's amazing the amount of gas that is wasted rushing from traffic light to traffic light.
#939 of 984 Re: Gas Mileage of 2012 Camry hybrid [sunny12]
Mar 05, 2012 (8:46 pm)
#940 of 984 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [camry_fan]
Mar 05, 2012 (9:00 pm)
So throw a 2 gallon gas can in the trunk when its almost empty and run it out. then you'll know.
#941 of 984 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG
Mar 09, 2012 (6:51 pm)
A couple of questions. I've only got about 1700 miles on my Camry Hybrid, and have it in Eco mode all the time. However I'm only getting a bit over 35 mpg in half city/half highway driving. A bit disappointing and I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong. Secondly was curious what the EV mode does. Often when I try and go into EV mode it tells me that EV mode is unavailable, and even when it does seem to be available it blinks out immediately. Any advice is appreciated.
#942 of 984 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG [whatever16]
Mar 12, 2012 (6:59 am)
Well, this is a tough question. After 7.5 years of driving two hybrids, I can offer you some suggestions.
1. My 2007 TCH has 92K miles, and I have averaged about 34 MPG over that time, with about an 85% City/15% Hwy mix living in Phoenix. So at least 7 months of the year I have the A/C running, which creates a drag on mileage. so your 35 MPG is not unreasonable.
2. Short trips are tough on MPG in all cars, but are more noticeable when you have a car with which you are studying the mileage. Are many of your trips short? That will kill the mileage, because the hybrid system is at it's best efficiency when the engine is fully warmed up.
3. My personal recommendation is to inflate your tires to 40 PSI. I think the manual says 32 PSI, but you'll gain a little mileage boost by keeping them inflated a little higher. If you do regular tire maintenance (rotating tires every other oil change, checking the PSI once a month, etc) you won't lose any tire life by inflating them up a little bit.
4. Read up on an accelerator technique called "feathering." It can give you a 1-2 MPG per tank boost if done often and correctly.
5. Don't carry any extra weight in your car. Every pound will draw-down additional MPG. Only carry what you absolutely need.
6. All the standard MPG tips apply - no "jackrabbit" starts, don't accelerate quickly from red light to red light, try to watch ahead a few blocks and regulate your speed when you know you are going to hit a red light or a green light up ahead, etc.
To get the full MPG benefit of your hybrid, you'll have to be a more conscientious driver, and pay attention to some little details.
Good luck and let us know how it goes !!
Happy Hybriding !!!
#943 of 984 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [camry_fan]
Mar 13, 2012 (8:12 pm)
I noticed one of the 2012 Toyota Camry LE Hybrid Adds listed a cruising range (something like 615 miles, 15 * 41 mpg combined) that had a small footnote stating that it was based on 15 gallons. So I suspect that Toyota figures the last 2 gallons is a safety factor. If you use the whole 17 gallons you would get close to 700 miles.
I am on my first tank of gas and (2012 TCH LE) in hilly Seattle with winter conditions, winter gas (lower fuel energy value), an engine not yet broken, lots of short trips (<13 miles), mainly city driving, running in ECO mode I have averaged 38 mpg on the first 1/2 of the tank of gas. I have noticed as others have noted that the first warmup miles (lets say 3 miles), the mpg is much lower. Than if I keep driving the mpg goes up from about 25 for the trip ending at 38 average. I have tried some trips where I first warmed up the engine, restarted the car to start a new trip and have then gotten as high as 48-51 mpg city in ECO mode. So I am so far very optimistic that once the engine is broken in, summer fuel blend is available and I try driving a longer trip I will definitely get the kind of mpg the EPA ratings state or better. My previous car was a 2008 Acura TL Type S with 286 hp (17/26 EPA MPG, 92 octane only). So far I am loving waving at the gas stations as I drive by and figure I am cutting my fuel costs in 1/2. My TL got 20 mpg commuting (17 if I used the heated seats and auto climate control). So I am pumped about getting around 40 mpg and using 87 octane instead of 92.
#944 of 984 Hw to get great TCH mileage whatever16
Mar 15, 2012 (8:27 pm)
Well, whatever16: I had the same question and couldn't find the answer written anywhere on the 2012 TCH. There are two (or maybe....technically only one) EV mode/s. The first is the pseudo EV mode that you will see on the highway when you come down off a hill and EV lights up on the left and the arrow points from the battery to the wheels. THIS EV mode can operate at higher speeds while the EV mode which is actuated by the EV button (next to the eco button) and lights up the upper right EV mode icon operates only a very low speeds and will stay engaged only if the battery is charged and a very light touch on the accelerator doesn't kick the motor on. A very delicate touch is needed to keep this "pure" EV mode going and the worst condition is starting up from a full stop. In traffic the EV SLOW START probably aggravates every other driver and it shows how much fuel everyone is dumping in stop and go driving with jack rabbit starts probably dumping 3 times as much fuel as an EV slow start in the TCH. On a route I travel several times a week I've learned to use EV mode (both kinds) in town, usually on routes where people can easily get around me (4 lane roads) and on streets where there is no traffic. IF I slow down I can get 50 MPG on this route where in the beginning I could only get 40mpg. The cost is time for it will take about 50% longer to get somewhere
Slowing down can't in general this can't be done on highway and city travel but even then you could be spending about 1/3 less at the pump with a hybrid.
#945 of 984 2012 Camry Hybrid LE horsepower/top speed
Mar 15, 2012 (8:39 pm)
If you wonder why the 2012 TCH can hit 100 mph in a passing zone it's because the car probably has 300 HP between both engines. Top speed is supposedly a 'governed' 118 mph.