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#933 of 1003 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern
Feb 27, 2012 (8:31 am)
Almost love my 2012 TCH XLE! Over 6K on the vehicle w/a consistent 38.6 MPG -- 80% hwy mileage The MPG estimate the car reports has been w/in 1-2 tenths of manual calculation. Very accurate. However, the cruise range and fuel guage are an entirely different issue. 17 gal tank (not counting the fill tube) and I have yet to put more than 15 gal in the car after the range meter reads zero and the fuel guage is empty. The only exception was last night when I left work. Car was on empty (fuel wrn light on for 40+ mi), range = 0 and I drove home (42 miles). Filled up the next morning w/15.5 gal. Counting tube capacity, that conservatively leaves 2.5 gal left and on a hybrid - an easy 90+ miles! Been two two different Toyota dealers to investigate/repair -- telling me (after coord with "Toyota") the car is still in "learning mode". Love the mileage, too bad I have absolutely no idea how far I can actually drive!! This is absurd. At one time my range guage read 499 mile after a fill up. Equates to 12.9 mpg for 17 gal! Learning mode or not - that is just ridiculous!
#934 of 1003 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [camry_fan]
Feb 27, 2012 (9:00 am)
Here's a tip for you:
In my 2007 TCH, I have figured out I have about 3 gallons left in the 17 gallon tank when the computer shows "Cruising Range 0"
With that in mind, when I see that message, I immediately take what the computer shows as the "MPG this tank" and subtract 2 miles per gallon from it, then multiply that times 17.
That will give me the total amount of estimated "REAL total miles driven" I can get in this tank.
This system works great. I usually drive until there is more than 15 gallons used up before refilling the tank.
1. system shows Cruising Range 0.
2. MPG on the car computer shows 34.8 MPG.
3. I subtract 2 MPG from that, leaving me 32.8 MPG.
4. I multiply 32.8 by 17 and get 557.6
5. My "miles driven so far this tank" on the car computer shows 459.6.
6. I subtract 459.6 from 557.6 and get 98 miles.
7. Therefore, I know I need to fill up sometime in the next 98 miles, OR, before the "miles driven so far this tank" gets to 557.6.
Try this and see if it works for you. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts it will !!
#935 of 1003 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [larsb]
Feb 27, 2012 (5:46 pm)
Sounds like a plan - I really appreciate your input. I'll try it and see how it goes. Thanks Much
#936 of 1003 Re: Great Mileage on 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE [wae1]
Feb 29, 2012 (2:20 pm)
There is a big difference of the drivability between normal and eco, I don't like the eco mode, and my normal mode drive in local only yields 35 +- in Altanta mild winter. The same time I can get 55+ out of my 2008 Prius, I don't think they are giving the right MPG on the sticker, we had such high hope before. But, the comfort and power is superior comparing to my little Prius.
#937 of 1003 2012 Toy Cam Hyb LE mileages at 1300 miles
Mar 03, 2012 (10:13 pm)
45 mile roundtrips to town and back at normal traffic speed.....39 mpg (55 deg F) front tires 38psi, rear 44 psi). 45 mile roundtrips with newbie hypermiling coming uphill and using EV.....43 mpg. To and from LA (270 miles) at freeway speeds..jackrabbit lights...sticking with traffic.....39 mpg. (all computed with full tanks and division)
#938 of 1003 2012 Toy Cam Hyb LE acceleration/cruise control
Mar 03, 2012 (10:27 pm)
These two items are not usually highlighted but deserve to be. The other evening there is a short stretch of passing lane here on the desert. I was surprised that passing two trucks brought the car to just touch the 100 mph mark! With this kind of power and a seamless transmission the car goes up and down hills using cruise control like a dream. It's possible under CC that you won't notice the engine coming on and turning off under normal driving. Be nice to your fellow drivers as they may not have this constancy and when one is hypermiling they could get very agitated. It's amazing the amount of gas that is wasted rushing from traffic light to traffic light.
#939 of 1003 Re: Gas Mileage of 2012 Camry hybrid [sunny12]
Mar 05, 2012 (7:46 pm)
#940 of 1003 Re: 2012 TCH Mileage and Cruise Range Concern [camry_fan]
Mar 05, 2012 (8:00 pm)
So throw a 2 gallon gas can in the trunk when its almost empty and run it out. then you'll know.
#941 of 1003 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG
Mar 09, 2012 (5:51 pm)
A couple of questions. I've only got about 1700 miles on my Camry Hybrid, and have it in Eco mode all the time. However I'm only getting a bit over 35 mpg in half city/half highway driving. A bit disappointing and I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong. Secondly was curious what the EV mode does. Often when I try and go into EV mode it tells me that EV mode is unavailable, and even when it does seem to be available it blinks out immediately. Any advice is appreciated.
#942 of 1003 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid Low MPG [whatever16]
Mar 12, 2012 (5:59 am)
Well, this is a tough question. After 7.5 years of driving two hybrids, I can offer you some suggestions.
1. My 2007 TCH has 92K miles, and I have averaged about 34 MPG over that time, with about an 85% City/15% Hwy mix living in Phoenix. So at least 7 months of the year I have the A/C running, which creates a drag on mileage. so your 35 MPG is not unreasonable.
2. Short trips are tough on MPG in all cars, but are more noticeable when you have a car with which you are studying the mileage. Are many of your trips short? That will kill the mileage, because the hybrid system is at it's best efficiency when the engine is fully warmed up.
3. My personal recommendation is to inflate your tires to 40 PSI. I think the manual says 32 PSI, but you'll gain a little mileage boost by keeping them inflated a little higher. If you do regular tire maintenance (rotating tires every other oil change, checking the PSI once a month, etc) you won't lose any tire life by inflating them up a little bit.
4. Read up on an accelerator technique called "feathering." It can give you a 1-2 MPG per tank boost if done often and correctly.
5. Don't carry any extra weight in your car. Every pound will draw-down additional MPG. Only carry what you absolutely need.
6. All the standard MPG tips apply - no "jackrabbit" starts, don't accelerate quickly from red light to red light, try to watch ahead a few blocks and regulate your speed when you know you are going to hit a red light or a green light up ahead, etc.
To get the full MPG benefit of your hybrid, you'll have to be a more conscientious driver, and pay attention to some little details.
Good luck and let us know how it goes !!
Happy Hybriding !!!