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#851 of 855 Feathering seems like a no brainer to me by housestuff Mar 04, 2009 (9:49 am)
I got my TCH and fit right into it getting 38 on my first tank with combined driving. This was a calculated real mileage and not the one posted on the dash (I don't believe in those dash calcs.). I find it really simple to just accelerate just past the desired speed then back off the gas completely to get the electric to kick in, then just lightly touch pedal to maintain speed. Works like a champ every time. If you have your foot at all on the gas you will never get the electric to take over.   I considered a VW Jetta TDI diesel before buying this because I own a 125000 mile 98 Beetle TDI that I have never gotten less than 48mpg on no matter how hard I drive it. I enjoy this car but if I had it to do over I would have bought the TDI. Just too much playing around to get the good mileage with this one (my wife will never do it, lead foot you know). I now have both worlds though and can play the gas vs diesel price war games with the oil companies.   For all those out there that just don't have the feel for the TCH I highly recommend you condider the VW diesel, all the perks of mileage with none of the messing around. Don't worry about the engine it's clean, quiet, lasts forever, has a 10k mile maintenance interval, cheaper, tax credit, 3 years totally free maintenance. Replies to this message: acdii (Mar 05, 2009 6:23 am)
#852 of 855 Re: Feathering seems like a no brainer to me [housestuff] by acdii Mar 05, 2009 (6:23 am)
Replying to: housestuff (Mar 04, 2009 9:49 am) Hope you have done the 90K recommended timing belt change, if not, be prepared for a world of hurt when it lets go. That was one of the deciding factors against my getting a 2006 TDI when I had a chance, didn't like that written in stone change the belt along with a few other components, and have seen and heard the horror stories about cost when it does let go. The other reason I didn't get one was the financing was way too high, and the dealer wasn't willing to go down on the price, he was pretty much hung on MSRP. I wound up with a Prius instead, with 2.9% financing, and 53 MPG. BUT when I feel the need for that soothing clack clack of a diesel, I hop in my F350 and give it a go.
#853 of 855 Re: Poor mileage in winter [orly1] by cdn_tch Apr 29, 2009 (7:02 pm)
Replying to: orly1 (Feb 14, 2009 11:01 pm) Orly1, what happened with the hypermiler who test drove your car?   Did you just need to learn so techniques or wa sthere a problem with the car?   Please let us know so we can all learn from your experience.   Thanks.
#854 of 855 re: Toyota Camry Hybrid poor gas mileage. by cdn_tch Nov 20, 2009 (5:41 pm)
jgallant said: I have had my 2009 TCH for about 6 weeks and have been tracking the gas consumption carefully. The web site (Canadian) says I should get 50 MPG city, combined and highway driving.   After 6800 KM (4225 Miles) I am getting only 40 MPG. I know that the info on the web site is an "estimate" but it shouldn't be 20% out. I don't drive with a heavy foot, in fact I try to get that little "excellent" message every time I shut the car off.   Has anyone experienced poor gas mileage like this?   I put a short answer into the 'Ask the Community' question area, but here is a longer post...   First a few questions.  - What part of the country do you live in?  - Do you use a block heater?  - How far/how long are you average trips?   Some general comments:  - The ECU is programmed to reduce emissions first, get better mileage second  - One full throttle acceleration an on ramp easily negates 10-15 minutes of easy driving  - After the coolant temp reaches 70oC, you have to be stopped for ~7 seconds for the car to transition to Mode 4, which will let you get into EV mode at any speed below 64kmh.  - Until the engine reaches 80oC, having the heat on will generally keep the engine running regardless of other factors. Replies to this message: jgallant (Nov 21, 2009 8:34 am)
#855 of 855 re: Toyota Camry Hybrid poor gas mileage. [cdn_tch] by jgallant Nov 21, 2009 (8:34 am)
Replying to: cdn_tch (Nov 20, 2009 5:41 pm) Thanks for the info on getting into Ev mode and how the car works while warming up. I will be testing those suggestions from now on. I live in Vernon BC Canada. It's in the Okanagan Valley near Kelowna. It has not been that cold here yet, never below freezing. I do have the heat on now but most of the Kilometers on the car were on a trip from here to Vegas in October. I wish I had known about feathering on that trip. My average trip now will be about 15KM or about 10 Miles. I suspect with the cold weather coming the MPG will not get any better except on longer trips. I didn't know anything about Mode 4 so from now on I'll be trying to hit that stop light on the way to work so I can stop for the 7 seconds. Thanks again.

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