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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 05, 2009 6:58 am) Don't get too hung up on the "tank average" when you are doing these tests. When you got the advice on the hwy test, he was not talking about a TANK AVERAGE, he was talking about looking at the REAL-TIME MPG meter and making sure that you are around 40+ MPG when you are at about 65 and on a flat surface. Search YouTube for "camry hybrid" and watch the video I posted about "48 MPG at 77 MPH" to see what I mean. Where do you live? I'm going to try and find a hypermiler in your area to test your car for you.
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 7:11 am) i think you are talking about watching big dial rather than MFD. why not trust MFD display? always hovers between 26/28. rarely hits 31 since purchase. am i calculating AVE MPG wrong by believing MFD? live in cleveland, ohio area. Future Replies: Please try to click on green orly1 and read previous posts before suggesting "new tip" thanks for your interest just to repeat, i would be content with close to EPA estimates. NOT expecting my particular vehicle to ever give me the high end numbers being posted on forum. |
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 7:11 am) |
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orly1, please check your CarSpace e-mail. I sent you a contact who might be able to help you.
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Before winter hit, with 13000+ on the clock I added up all the miles, and all the gallons and did the math. 41 MPG overall average for warm weather driving. Pretty darn good for a car that is only supposed to get 34 highway. My cold weather driving has dropped down to roughly 33 MPG, but then again I drive like its a regular car and skip all the P&G and other hybrid tricks. This doesn't surprise me however, I expected the drop when winter hit, and it pretty much matches what I had with the Prius I had. Warm weather was 51 and cold was 41. If I drive it in hybrid style I can get it up to roughly 35 MPG in the cold, but I normally don't have the time to do it in the mornings getting to work, but I do on the way home, and that is what is getting me the 33MPG. My morning trip is roughly 30 MPG on the display, and 36 on the way home. On a tank to tank basis, the average tank came out to 38 MPG in the summer, with some in the 40's, enough of them to get me to 41 MPG overall. My winter is getting me between 31 and 35 MPG per tank, depending on how cold it is. |
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I will follow up to what others and I have said here. A key element is the length of the trip. I have an '08 TCH, and have quite consistently gotten roughly 24-25 MPG in winter (20's to 40's), but this is partly because my main daily driving is a 15-20 min city commute, w/only 5 miles of often slow highway driving. This is not enough, or barely enough, time for the car to warm up, so it essentially never gets out of gas mode. Everyone who posts these winter mileage estimates should state their average trip length, and whether it is highway or stop/go. Unless my car is a lemon (and I can get 35-40 in summer on the highway), I think it is hard to break 30 MPG (and I've never been close) on cold, 15 min city trips. On another matter, I have never completely understood the "pulse-glide" technique. I have tried, but slow down too much on the glide and then end up having to press the gas too much on the pulse, and mileage degrades! How long is each phase? 1 second? 10? I don't think I am doing it right. Thanks. Macolyte |
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Replying to: sgoodman (Feb 12, 2009 10:02 am) |
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 11:37 am) I have been watching this with interest. Hope to see the results soon. I can't imagine not being able to match the new EPA levels. When I traded at 67,000 miles my lifetime FE was over 37 and that is in the hills of WV. I wish I was closer to Cleveland as I would love to drive a car someone says has something wrong.
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Feb 13, 2009 8:45 am) there is more than one person on this forum that has posted very disappointing FE and got the "run around from toyota" - they just seem to give up. thanks to larsb pep talk, i hope i will have the energy to pursue this further. the contact has emailed me and has offered to meet and drive the car with a "scanguage". that is very nice since i have no other way at present to tell whether it is the car or the driver. what car did you trade at 37? mine is 09 TCH. |
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Replying to: sgoodman (Feb 12, 2009 10:02 am) is that "mac lover" - because i am also mac user. i have seen some of your earlier posts, when you first got the car and were stuggling to get EPA. as per request, my length of trips ARE short, during the winter. and cdn_tch did explain the concept to me that even though the dial "looks as if" the car is warmed up it must still cycle in and out of ICE (post #823) he also accepts 10 MPG less during winter. consistently gotten roughly 24-25 MPG in winter (20º s to 40º s) sounds like me, only i've gotten these numbers regardless of temps. your car sounds like mine, however i would not have purchased based on these numbers. in earlier posts, i have stated that from time to time the MFD will read between 35 - 40, usually right after fill up on a 30 minute plus drive. then back to city and mileage creeps back down to below 30 tank average. i've been ill this past week so i have not contacted GM at purchase location as suggested. will keep posting. frankly all these posts that claim they are getting above EPA "without even trying" are beginning to depress me. (jealousy) thanks for your interest. at least they posted my review on edmund's  i just heard a line in a t.v. show making fun of people who believe in the EPA estimates, saying that "EPA is just a number to get you in the car and take a test drive" so that you will then base you purchase on more/other factors - MY BIGGEST deciding factor was a belief in EPA estimates and blogs, media and other "PRO FE" propaganda. good night macolyte
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