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MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (5:00 am)
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many posts to read,
 
totally agree about weather.. my real world numbers have been consistently 26/28 tank ave since june 08. sometimes reaching 31 MPG.
 
would be thrilled with you numbers, simply satisfied with EPA
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Re: Real gas saving [orly1] by lzc
Feb 05, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 03, 2009 3:55 pm)

Easier than finding a hypermiler, how about just taking your car out on the freeway and checking the mileage? Fill the tank, find a level and preferably lightly traveled road, set the speed control at about 65 mph, and then just drive for about 30 miles. Assuming you aren't bucking a significant headwind, you should get something close to EPA hwy mileage.
 
There are too many variables to deal with in normal stop and go driving to ever know for sure what accounts for mileage. Highway driving, on a level road and at a set speed, eliminates all that. Good luck.
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MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (6:58 am)
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thanks lzc,
 
i do understand the necessity of repeating some of the obvious tips, since same questions are repeated some of the "try first" tips come up also. thanks for caring enough to reply.
 
of course, i have already set cruise control to 65 and driven 30 + miles on level light traffic. once my MFD displays 26 tank ave., even a trip like this does not produce EPA.
 
can anyone direct me to a member who sells Toyota Hybrids and might give me tips on how to get dealer/customer service to get involved?
 
since car checks out o.k. on dealer computer Toyota response has been "car working according to expectations" nothing more they will do.
 
Future Replies: Please try to click on orly1 and read previous posts before suggesting "new tip"
 
thanks for your interest
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [orly1] by larsb
Feb 05, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 05, 2009 6:58 am)

orly1 says, "of course, i have already set cruise control to 65 and driven 30 + miles on level light traffic. once my MFD displays 26 tank ave."
 
Don't get too hung up on the "tank average" when you are doing these tests.
 
When you got the advice on the hwy test, he was not talking about a TANK AVERAGE, he was talking about looking at the REAL-TIME MPG meter and making sure that you are around 40+ MPG when you are at about 65 and on a flat surface.
 
Search YouTube for "camry hybrid" and watch the video I posted about "48 MPG at 77 MPH" to see what I mean.
 
Where do you live? I'm going to try and find a hypermiler in your area to test your car for you.
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [larsb] by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 7:11 am)

o.k. thanks. will look up video.
 
i think you are talking about watching big dial rather than MFD.
 
why not trust MFD display? always hovers between 26/28. rarely hits 31 since purchase.
 
am i calculating AVE MPG wrong by believing MFD?
 
live in cleveland, ohio area.
 
Future Replies: Please try to click on green orly1 and read previous posts before suggesting "new tip"
  
thanks for your interest
 
just to repeat, i would be content with close to EPA estimates. NOT expecting my particular vehicle to ever give me the high end numbers being posted on forum.
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [larsb] by lzc
Feb 05, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 7:11 am)

Thanks for pointing out the difference. Normal driving tests contain enough variables to guarantee results of little value. Only by eliminating as many variables as possible and then scrupulously measuring is one likely to get results that measure the car's performance, not the driver's or current driving conditions.
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orly1 by larsb
Feb 05, 2009 (11:37 am)
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orly1, please check your CarSpace e-mail. I sent you a contact who might be able to help you.
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19800 miles later by acdii
Feb 12, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Before winter hit, with 13000+ on the clock I added up all the miles, and all the gallons and did the math. 41 MPG overall average for warm weather driving. Pretty darn good for a car that is only supposed to get 34 highway. My cold weather driving has dropped down to roughly 33 MPG, but then again I drive like its a regular car and skip all the P&G and other hybrid tricks. This doesn't surprise me however, I expected the drop when winter hit, and it pretty much matches what I had with the Prius I had. Warm weather was 51 and cold was 41. If I drive it in hybrid style I can get it up to roughly 35 MPG in the cold, but I normally don't have the time to do it in the mornings getting to work, but I do on the way home, and that is what is getting me the 33MPG. My morning trip is roughly 30 MPG on the display, and 36 on the way home.
 
On a tank to tank basis, the average tank came out to 38 MPG in the summer, with some in the 40's, enough of them to get me to 41 MPG overall. My winter is getting me between 31 and 35 MPG per tank, depending on how cold it is.
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Poor mileage in winter by sgoodman
Feb 12, 2009 (10:02 am)
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I will follow up to what others and I have said here. A key element is the length of the trip. I have an '08 TCH, and have quite consistently gotten roughly 24-25 MPG in winter (20's to 40's), but this is partly because my main daily driving is a 15-20 min city commute, w/only 5 miles of often slow highway driving. This is not enough, or barely enough, time for the car to warm up, so it essentially never gets out of gas mode. Everyone who posts these winter mileage estimates should state their average trip length, and whether it is highway or stop/go. Unless my car is a lemon (and I can get 35-40 in summer on the highway), I think it is hard to break 30 MPG (and I've never been close) on cold, 15 min city trips.
 
On another matter, I have never completely understood the "pulse-glide" technique. I have tried, but slow down too much on the glide and then end up having to press the gas too much on the pulse, and mileage degrades! How long is each phase? 1 second? 10? I don't think I am doing it right.
 
Thanks.
 
Macolyte
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Re: Poor mileage in winter [sgoodman] by acdii
Feb 12, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: sgoodman (Feb 12, 2009 10:02 am)

P&G in the Camry is much more difficult than the Prius due to the size of the motor and additional weight. The trick I found that works best is feathering the throttle to keep it within 3-5 MPH of the speed you want to maintain. Light throttle to get back up to the peak, and on the glide keep your foot on the throttle with less pressure. You will know you are doing it right when your calf begins to ache.

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