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#803 of 856 Mileage after two tanks by tjackson12336 Aug 14, 2008 (4:09 pm)
I commute 120 miles per day. 20% rural hills, 20 % in town and 60% highway. First tank was 40.3 mpg. Second tank 42.1 mpg. I typically am driving the speed limit or just a few miles over. So far so good. Great mileage for this large of car.
#804 of 856 effects of ethanol? by sunkist2 Aug 22, 2008 (4:57 am)
I have had my 09 TCH for two months with just under 2000 miles and the mpg has been around 36-38 running the A/C. The last tank is showing 42.8 without running the A/C so a big improvement. I use 100% gas (no ethanol) and am curious if the E10 stuff hurts the mpg. I also have a 96 Camry that typically gets 31mpg on 100% gas and when we tried E10 the car ran lousy and the mpg dropped to 28-29. Will E10 have the same effect on the TCH? E10 in the OKC area seems to be predominate now and it is getting harder to find 100% gas. I am hesitant to try E10 if it will hurt the mpg (even if it is a few cents cheaper), not to mention what other "bad" things E10 might do to a car. Replies to this message: loves2read (Aug 22, 2008 5:15 am) lzc (Aug 22, 2008 7:13 am) sunkist2 (Aug 22, 2008 9:36 am)
#805 of 856 Re: effects of ethanol? [sunkist2] by loves2read Aug 22, 2008 (5:15 am)
Replying to: sunkist2 (Aug 22, 2008 4:57 am) I have 09 TCH bought in May--used normally for in town driving--stops/starts and lights and since I'm in TX run my AC---I normally get a 32-33 avg and the gas I normally put in has ethanol to certain %--there are times we have gone on the road and gotten more like 38-39-40 mpg and bought gas that probably had no ethanol... so yes--if you have ethanol mix it will lower your MPG no way to avoid that since it is law of chemstry...
#806 of 856 Re: effects of ethanol? [sunkist2] by lzc Aug 22, 2008 (7:13 am)
Replying to: sunkist2 (Aug 22, 2008 4:57 am) The energy content of gasoline is 112-114,000 BTUs (winter/summer blends). Corn ethanol contains 76,000 BTUs. E10 reduces the energy content about 3%. Replies to this message: sunkist2 (Aug 22, 2008 9:36 am)
#807 of 856 Re: effects of ethanol? [lzc] by sunkist2 Aug 22, 2008 (9:36 am)
Replying to: lzc (Aug 22, 2008 7:13 am) So, I guess the bottom line is I need to stick with 100% gas as long as I can get it. Something I knew all along but was hopeful the TCH would handle the "garbage" stuff better. Whose brilliant(?) idea was it to introduce ethanol into gas? Wait, don't answer that, I think I know who!
#808 of 856 ethanol and economy by colorlarry Aug 26, 2008 (2:44 pm)
I just completed a round trip between Syracuse, NY and Hyannis, MA in my new TCH. The tank average for the trip to Hyannis was about 40 mpg. The average for the trip from Hyannis was about 36 mpg. The routes were identical as were the driving conditions. The difference? The gas bought in Massachusetts for the trip to Syracuse was 10 per cent ethanol.
#809 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [stj4] by bjrowner Aug 28, 2008 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: stj4 (May 27, 2006 7:43 pm) I am also seeing a discrepancy between the readouts, and when I calculate MPG in my 2007 THC at the pump. The read out on the console is usually anywhere from 3 to 5 mpg better than what my calculation is after filling up at the pump. When I asked the dealer to check to see if the on board calculator was reporting accurately, she said the on board one was working fine. She said it is just calculated differently than when at the pumps. I have no idea what that means. How can both be correct? How would they check the accuracy of the on board calculator? Thanks for any insight you may have. Replies to this message: lzc (Aug 29, 2008 3:25 am) tsy (Aug 30, 2008 8:45 am)
#810 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [bjrowner] by lzc Aug 29, 2008 (3:25 am)
Replying to: bjrowner (Aug 28, 2008 4:49 pm) A 3 to 5 mpg spread between dash readout and hand calculation seems excessive to me. I've experienced a .5 to 1.5 mpg difference, with the dash reading high more often than hand calculation. Some of that can be accounted for by the difference in when gas pumps click off.   I will say that about the time I conclude the dash reading is always a little optimistic, I get a couple calculations the other way. So, it just may be not as precise as some might wish. Replies to this message: tsy (Aug 30, 2008 8:45 am)
#811 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [lzc] by tsy Aug 30, 2008 (8:45 am)
Replying to: lzc (Aug 29, 2008 3:25 am) I agree, mine is usually only 1-2 mpg off (always higher though). This is similar to my experience with other cars with trip computers though. I believe it's calculated by the computer through how much fuel is going through the injectors which must not be completely accurate but is a close estimation.   tom
#812 of 856 2009 TCH - Real World MPG by sttkailua Nov 23, 2008 (10:14 pm)
Had the car 3 months now, 5,000 miles driven. My last fill-up averaged 45+ MPG. Computer screen said 42 MPG. Most fill-ups, the computed MPG is pretty close to the computer number.   Those of you who are getting in the mid-30's, read the driving tips heading! The 'pulse and glide' method on the accelerator really does improves the MPG. If you drive the hybrid like a regular gas vehicle with constant pressure on the accelerator pedal all the time, your MPG will not improve.   Keep the MPG dial on the dash as close to the 40-60 MPG range as possible. Drive in the E-mode (gas engine off) as much as possible!

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