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yesterday I went to eat with my friend who bought a new 09 V6 Camry about a month before we got our TCH--she is not very gadget adept and I was doing her blueetooth connection for the 3rd time--and showed her how to toggle between the screens on her electronic display--- her AVG gas mpg is one of those--it showed 17.9 I think --or maybe 17.6--when she saw it, she went "OHHHH"--meaning that is all I am getting???? so I could tell she was disappointed since even the V6 is supposed to get more than that in town where she does most of her driving... but she is not a very gas-conscious driver--she speeds and then brakes instead of coasting up to the light--she jumps on the gas going away from lights-- so I knew she was not trying to maximize the POTENTIAL for better mileage... she had an Avalon before and would have bought another but the new one is so much longer than the one she traded in--it would not really fit that well in her garage... anyway we took trip from DFW to San Antonio and the New Braunfels area last week--drove I-35 through Waco and Austin so it was mainly freeway non-stop getting there and coming back-- we averaged almost 40 mpg coming back and had about 38 going--don't know if there was a head-wind/tail-wind situation since I thought the hills would have cancelled each other out... in-town the mpg dropped of course but still we did pretty well-- and we are hoping that giving the car that long of a drive will help with the breakin since mostly I have been doing short trips in town and not seeing much above 33 as an AVG....still glad I got it-- was a little noisy on the road--the tires are the Bridgestones and they are noisy--but the car drove well--had passing kick when we needed it--and my husband was pretty happy-- we also got a full set of golf clubs, a rolling duffle bag, a carry-on size bag and items like a blender, golf shoes, and some food stuff in the trunk--we had more space than we throught for actual storage--but the dropdown for the battery vents can be a little tricky as well for storing taller stuff... |
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I have an 08 TCH, and often don't get the mileage reported here. The 3 most important determinants of my mileage are: 1.) Length of trip: For the first 6-8 mins, I see a characteristic stair-step appearance on the MPG monitor, increasing from about 10 to 30. If the trip is <10 mins I will typically not exceed roughly 25-30 MPG, and I need about 12-15 mins for the trip average to exceed 30. 2.) Temperature: In summer, I am getting overall mileage ca 32 MPG (w/lots of short trips). In winter (15-35 deg), I got 24-28 (on short trip city driving). 3.) Hills: Going to work, a lot downhill - 38-40 MPG over 7 miles. Coming back, 30ish, 24 in winter. When I first got the car in the early winter, I was a bit angry and disappointed - thought I got a lemon. Now I see that EPA "around town" #s may be high for short trips, and the "highway" #s low, as we can get 38-40 effortlessly on long trips. I know there are many on this forum who get much better around town (but I wonder about the length of their trips), but it is impt for those who don't to know they are not alone. Macolyte
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Replying to: sgoodman (Jul 15, 2008 5:47 am) ALL fossil-fuel-powered cars (non-hybrids, diesels too) have lower MPG at the beginning of a trip, before the engine reaches optimal operating temps. The best mileage occurs after then engine is warmed up. If all or most of your trips are short, you will consistently see far below EPA averages in ANY vehicle. It seems worse in a hybrid only because the expectations are higher. In the cold months, using the heater hurts your MPG.. In the summer, using the A/C affects MPG a lot also. You will get the best MPG in your TCH while in moderate temps, using no climate controls inside. The average combined (City/Hwy) MPG for a large group of TCHs is between 34 mpg and 37 mpg overall. People with short commutes are the lowest. The absolute worse performers combine these scenarios: 1. Live in a place with very cold winters. 2. Have a short commute. 3. Use the A/C a lot in the summer. That combination will assure that you get lower than EPA averages in ANY vehicle. In a hybrid, it will SEEM worse because you expect better. But it's no different than any other similar car would do.
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 15, 2008 7:40 am) |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 15, 2008 7:40 am) I believe for many it's an issue of several back to back short trips commuting day after day rather than just short trips in general. |
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Driving it right [conservative] I get 38 - 40MPG, occasionally better. Driving it in the mountains I get 34 - 36 MPG. Driving "like everyone else drives" I get 36 - 37MPG. Driving it with a car top carrier I get 27MPG [YIKES!] I drive a lot. These numbers are solid. This is a great car. |
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I purchased my car in May 2008, and I was getting 37-39 MPG on a tank. Right now, I have a 1/4 of a tank left and I am getting 32.7 MPG. My car has 3081 miles on it. Has this happened to anyone? Is so, what was done to make it improve? I live in southern Louisiana, so I am only driving on flat land (no mountains or hills)
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Replying to: callis (Aug 01, 2008 3:36 am) my mpg was less than 32 when I started a new tank and I had several more long distance runs on that one (which makes for higher mpg than my normal in-town driving) so I am thinking that the place I buy my gas from--a Kroger site that gives 10 cent discount to people who shop Kroger has just started adding/buying gas with more ethanol the disclaimer at the pump says it can have up to 10%--- looking for new gas station w/o ethanol to see if there is difference now I am starting to worry about its effects on my engine... |
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After my accident... when they had to rebuild my TCH, the milage dropped from 40+ mpg to 36. I brought the car back to the dealer and they ran a check on the car. It showed nothing... but, the milage wnt back up. This occured again after a recent visit where they worked on the car... the milage dropped again to the 35-36 range. Again I asked them to run a system check. They did and found nothing! But, the milage on my car returned to the 40 mpg range. If you have noticed a marked drop in milage after having the car serviced, ask them to run a system check and see if this helps. |
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Bought a new 2008 Camry Hybrid in December 2007. Have put 15k miles on it so far. Average mpg are 36.4. I have a lighter foot than my wife and can get a consistent 40 when I drive. Recently completed a 411 mile trip over flat lands and mountains. Took 10 gallons to fill the tank. Dealer replaced the rear brake pads at the 5k service as they were making noise. Has a slight noise from rear when braking lightly. Noticed the right rear rotor has a slight rub spot when rotating the tires. I performed the 10k and 15k service using Toyota 5-20 oil bought from dealer. (Mobile 5-20 in a Toyota container). Fuel economy improved after winter was over. Bought some 0-20 oil to try this coming winter. Actual mileage is a little bit less than the computer indicates. Heading out tomorrow for a 2500 mile trip. Will post any significant events when I get back. |
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