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so of of what a driver can get relative to MPG efficiency in a TCH seems to me to be related to where they are driving and what type of driving they need to do... this is RELATIVE--not FIXED--the only way to truly compare MPG efficience is to drive exactly the same course in the same conditions as another drive--once with the same TCH and once with a different one really-- and compare the MPG figures.... a person who lives in one part of the county with a different physical configuration of routes and also different temperature means is going to have different numbers than I will... it is not comparing apples to oranges but maybe Gala to Granny Smith or Delicious to Yellow Delicious frankly when there is no way to actually validate claims it is ephemeral to certain extent...
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This may sound irrelevent to this thread but, As an owner of 2007 TCH, don't worry about your mpg number at all. I used to average around 33 mpg until after 6 month of driving. Nearly 2 years later, i get 39.2 mpg The fuel efficiency will get better as you drive around. Also, if you care so much about it, your driving habbits and style will change, resulting a better mpg. I hope this helps, I just don't want some of you to worry too much like i did. |
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 30, 2008 6:32 am) It is a relative comparison. My opinion, for what its worth, is that you should know what your FE was on your previous vehicle as compared to the EPA and you'll do about the same on your TCH. Of course with the TCH you have the opportunity to then well exceed that figure if you indeed change your driving habits (you can do that too on your old vehicle). On just about every vehicle I've had in the last 10 years I averaged just over the low number on EPA FE postings. However I am averaging 37+ over 50,000 miles on the TCH. Just below no the old EPA rating but well above the new ratings. I've got several friends that are still telling me their car gets 35 mpg. No way. I know what they drive and while they may have a trip or two where they do that there is no way they get that good. A lot of people don't know how badly their vehicle truly is overall and then when they get in a TCH and only get 34 to 35 they are disappointed. It's hard to prove anything to these folk. Be informed. |
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yesterday I went to eat with my friend who bought a new 09 V6 Camry about a month before we got our TCH--she is not very gadget adept and I was doing her blueetooth connection for the 3rd time--and showed her how to toggle between the screens on her electronic display--- her AVG gas mpg is one of those--it showed 17.9 I think --or maybe 17.6--when she saw it, she went "OHHHH"--meaning that is all I am getting???? so I could tell she was disappointed since even the V6 is supposed to get more than that in town where she does most of her driving... but she is not a very gas-conscious driver--she speeds and then brakes instead of coasting up to the light--she jumps on the gas going away from lights-- so I knew she was not trying to maximize the POTENTIAL for better mileage... she had an Avalon before and would have bought another but the new one is so much longer than the one she traded in--it would not really fit that well in her garage... anyway we took trip from DFW to San Antonio and the New Braunfels area last week--drove I-35 through Waco and Austin so it was mainly freeway non-stop getting there and coming back-- we averaged almost 40 mpg coming back and had about 38 going--don't know if there was a head-wind/tail-wind situation since I thought the hills would have cancelled each other out... in-town the mpg dropped of course but still we did pretty well-- and we are hoping that giving the car that long of a drive will help with the breakin since mostly I have been doing short trips in town and not seeing much above 33 as an AVG....still glad I got it-- was a little noisy on the road--the tires are the Bridgestones and they are noisy--but the car drove well--had passing kick when we needed it--and my husband was pretty happy-- we also got a full set of golf clubs, a rolling duffle bag, a carry-on size bag and items like a blender, golf shoes, and some food stuff in the trunk--we had more space than we throught for actual storage--but the dropdown for the battery vents can be a little tricky as well for storing taller stuff... |
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I have an 08 TCH, and often don't get the mileage reported here. The 3 most important determinants of my mileage are: 1.) Length of trip: For the first 6-8 mins, I see a characteristic stair-step appearance on the MPG monitor, increasing from about 10 to 30. If the trip is <10 mins I will typically not exceed roughly 25-30 MPG, and I need about 12-15 mins for the trip average to exceed 30. 2.) Temperature: In summer, I am getting overall mileage ca 32 MPG (w/lots of short trips). In winter (15-35 deg), I got 24-28 (on short trip city driving). 3.) Hills: Going to work, a lot downhill - 38-40 MPG over 7 miles. Coming back, 30ish, 24 in winter. When I first got the car in the early winter, I was a bit angry and disappointed - thought I got a lemon. Now I see that EPA "around town" #s may be high for short trips, and the "highway" #s low, as we can get 38-40 effortlessly on long trips. I know there are many on this forum who get much better around town (but I wonder about the length of their trips), but it is impt for those who don't to know they are not alone. Macolyte
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Replying to: sgoodman (Jul 15, 2008 5:47 am) ALL fossil-fuel-powered cars (non-hybrids, diesels too) have lower MPG at the beginning of a trip, before the engine reaches optimal operating temps. The best mileage occurs after then engine is warmed up. If all or most of your trips are short, you will consistently see far below EPA averages in ANY vehicle. It seems worse in a hybrid only because the expectations are higher. In the cold months, using the heater hurts your MPG.. In the summer, using the A/C affects MPG a lot also. You will get the best MPG in your TCH while in moderate temps, using no climate controls inside. The average combined (City/Hwy) MPG for a large group of TCHs is between 34 mpg and 37 mpg overall. People with short commutes are the lowest. The absolute worse performers combine these scenarios: 1. Live in a place with very cold winters. 2. Have a short commute. 3. Use the A/C a lot in the summer. That combination will assure that you get lower than EPA averages in ANY vehicle. In a hybrid, it will SEEM worse because you expect better. But it's no different than any other similar car would do.
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 15, 2008 7:40 am) |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 15, 2008 7:40 am) I believe for many it's an issue of several back to back short trips commuting day after day rather than just short trips in general. |
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Driving it right [conservative] I get 38 - 40MPG, occasionally better. Driving it in the mountains I get 34 - 36 MPG. Driving "like everyone else drives" I get 36 - 37MPG. Driving it with a car top carrier I get 27MPG [YIKES!] I drive a lot. These numbers are solid. This is a great car. |
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I purchased my car in May 2008, and I was getting 37-39 MPG on a tank. Right now, I have a 1/4 of a tank left and I am getting 32.7 MPG. My car has 3081 miles on it. Has this happened to anyone? Is so, what was done to make it improve? I live in southern Louisiana, so I am only driving on flat land (no mountains or hills)
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