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Re: mpg and power [tnltnl] by wvgasguy
Jun 18, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: tnltnl (Jun 17, 2008 8:16 pm)

Remember too that sgoodman's results may not be typical. Depending on where you live, how you drive, etc. I just drove my TCH to work this AM, mostly on the interstate at 65 mph and got 41 mpg. Yesterday on a mixed interstate, town and rural drive I averaged 41 for about 80 miles. Interstate driving is not even the sweet spot for my TCH, It really shines on rural 2 lane roads.
 
My lifetime FE after 51,000 miles is 37.3 mpg. I've never gotten less than 32 on a tank (and that was extreem weather and fast driving).
 
Some may suggest their 6cy or even any other car where the EPA advertises a high hwy FE claim, do as well as a TCH, but unless someone tracks their FE all the time, they probably don't have a clue about what their car is really doing.
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Re: mpg and power [wvgasguy] by loves2read
Jun 18, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jun 18, 2008 4:51 am)

have had our 09 TCH for little over a month--have driven over 1K mainly short distance (under 5 mi) on city streets with red lights--not stop and go driving on freeways under the battery and has 4 or 5 distrance runs on freeways--but I am not a commuter--retired now--and don't really need to drive long distances to do my daily living....I knew when I decided to buy a TCH that I would probably not get the super efficiency that some people post about because my routes are different...
 
have put in 3 tanks of gas and have been getting with the math about 33.2 to 33.8 as the avg mpg....
when we stop the car and check the mpg readout--we get many EXCELLENT showing over 35 mpg--so I keep expecting to get a better MPG when I do the math...
 
I am not super disappointed since I realize that much of my driving routes do not take advantage of the strengths of the hybrid system---but I do try to maximize my battery use and just the coasting effect (which my husband says works in any car--not just a hybrid)...I have had some concerns about what my MPG dial is doing when I compare it with the little icon showing battery/gas engine/wheels on the center console because they seem to be at cross purposes at times--but people said that is normal---trust the car's system--so I am trying to do that...
 
the only consolation is that I know we would not gave gotten numbers even this good if we had bought a 4 cyl XLS top of the line (which IS what we would have bought)...or a 6 cyl Accord and I know that my friend who bought a new 09 6 cyl Camry --and does basically the exact same type of driving I do --is getting way less than we are--under 20 for sure...
 
it just seems like I have enough of those uphill starts from the light and hitting reds vs greens to make an impact and doing errands in my area there is no way NOT to have shorter distances which eat up the MPG
I am starting to find streets to use that don't have so many lights or stop signs
 
We are using this car when we go out together in the evenings and on weekends which we definitely did not do when I had my PT Cruiser--so I know my husband appreciates it vs using his Tahoe...
just hope I can learn as I go on how to maximize the hybrid's strengths...
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Re: Long term hybid owners [wvgasguy] by grg
Jun 18, 2008 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 23, 2008 8:27 am)

I have had my TCH 21 months, and I don't understand how the new owners are seeing such low mileage. I have a 2007, and I average 38 mpg in the spring and fall.
If I use the air conditioner on eco, I get a little worse mileage. The worse mileage is in the winter when I use the heat/defroster. But I never get let than 32 mpg for a tank of gas. Hills aren't an issue because what goes up must go down, no? I agree that there is a definite style of driving, and one has to hope for 2 lanes so the acceleration people can pass on the left. I eventually get up to the speed limit, but it is slower. I find the whole process a positive relaxing experience. As far as tips goes, there is a basic "thrust and glide" approach that should be engaged to maximize the use of the electric engine. It can be searched for through this website.
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Re: Long term hybid owners [grg] by wvgasguy
Jun 18, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: grg (Jun 18, 2008 5:35 am)

I live in the hills and granted it is not an equal exchange of energy between the ups and downs. But what I notice a lot is when I'm going uphill and getting say 20 mpg, my excess power is still charging the battery if I'm not pushing the car. Then when I crest over the hill I have a full charge and my gage will drop to 60. If I am then in an area with rolling hills or mild grades the battery power added to the idle engin will propel me with an FE rating still above 40.
 
My one tank of 32 mpg was on an interstate driving at 80 to 85 for about 3.5 hours in a cold (less than 40 degree) rain. rain usually costs me the most pain, but wind and cold add as well. Idon't live in a large metropolitan area with numerous stop and go situations and I must assume those getting 24 have those situations. I have driven in every other situation and can't get below 35 unless I intentionally push hard. Even spending a weekend inside the loop at Baltimore I was able to get 39. Not every redlight was an uphill start.
 
I do have to make an effort though to not be in the fast lane, do fast starts, and all the other things I did in the past.
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Not Convinced by mz3s
Jun 18, 2008 (6:37 am)
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With all the mileage posts here i'm just not convinced a hybrid is the way to go. Better mileage and all is great, but why should I have to sacrifice my driving style to get the numbers? I'm not a hypermiler, but not a nut either. I don't see the benefit of adding complexity to my car, paying more for it, and having to putt putt it everywhere pissing off other drivers for the extra mileage. And its not that much given that i drive normally.
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Re: Not Convinced [mz3s] by redmazda3
Jun 18, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: mz3s (Jun 18, 2008 6:37 am)

From your name it looks like you own a Mazda 3s. My wife and I own a 2007 TCH and a 2004 Mazda 3 Hatchback. She drives her TCH as if it is a regular gas engine car. There are times, when I am behind her in my car, that I have trouble keeping pace with her starts and she goes just as fast around corners as I do in my Mazda. She drives the TCH about 90% of the time. Her commute is about 8 miles of stop and start driving and she still manages to get around 36 mpg. So without really trying to get excellent gas mileage, she still gets really good gas mileage. When I drive the TCH, I can generally squeeze a couple of extra mpgs out of the car. We love driving both cars.
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Re: Not Convinced [redmazda3] by mz3s
Jun 18, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: redmazda3 (Jun 18, 2008 6:57 am)

good for you guys, glad you two are happy with your cars, assuming you like your MZ3. your wife's camry is delivering as advertised.
 
my issue is whether its all worth it. they make weird popping noises. For me, no.
 
Thanks for an honest post. it's certainly better than hearing people getting that mileage figure and complaining. and with the "on this one occasion on the luckiest day of my life when i found a blank check and a four leaf clover... oh yeah... going down the hill with the engine shut off I got a billion skillion mpg. those stories are kinda cool though. it keeps my own imagination in check.
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Re: Long term hybid owners [grg] by shazam3
Jun 18, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: grg (Jun 18, 2008 5:35 am)

"If I use the air conditioner on eco, I get a little worse mileage."
 
Hmm?!? That's odd. I thought I read on the manual that if you use the AC on ECO it uses less power therefore you get improved fuel efficiency.
I'll try driving without ECO to see if I get better FE like you are experiencing.
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Re: Not Convinced [mz3s] by snaab93se1
Jun 18, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: mz3s (Jun 18, 2008 6:37 am)

Just curious....what other cars are you considering? Love my TCH but I got it in Feb when they were not in demand. If I was buying now ...not sure it would be the premium they are asking over MSRP. Only difference in driving it verses a normal gas engine is a slight shudder when starting and a slight whine when stopping...both of which are not annoying to me and I am annoyed easily. Must give kudos to the A/C as yesterday it was 115 and today was 111 and had no problems cooling the car with no tinted windows....did decrease the mileage but no more than any other car.
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Re: Not Convinced [mz3s] by wvgasguy
Jun 23, 2008 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: mz3s (Jun 18, 2008 7:41 am)

they make weird popping noises
 
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