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#751 of 985 Re: Question about Camry Hybrid and driving [stevedebi]
by larsb
May 29, 2008 (11:50 am)
With 'Yota planning on selling a MilJion hybrids a year in a few years, they have a battery plan:
New Battery Plants on the way
A week after announcing it will build its second battery plant for 'green cars,' Toyota Motor Corp. disclosed it will rev up production of its hybrid cars and is planning a third battery plant in Japan.
This is according to an Associated Press report, which stated that the planned $291-million factory in Miyagi prefecture, northern Japan, will be operated by Panasonic EV Energy Co., Toyota's joint venture with Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.
Slated for operation by 2010, the plant will make nickel-metal hydride batteries, with production capacity at 200,000 a year, with start-up production at about half of that.
The move follows a Toyota's announcement to build a $194 million plant in Shizuoka, in central Japan, that would also produce NiHM batteries for gas-electric hybrid vehicles.
Toyota is planning to address the increasing demand for hybrid vehicles with three new hybrid battery factories, including one dedicated for next-generation lithium ion packs, Automotive News has reported, citing the Japanese newspaper Nikkei as its original source.
It is reported that the company is likely to spend around $673.1 million on the planned plants, to facilitate an annual battery output of one million units by 2011.
Nickel-metal hydride batteries are likely to be produced at a plant in northern Japan, whereas the lithium ion battery plant will be based in Shizuoka, southwest of Tokyo. The new nickel-metal hydride plant is scheduled to start production in 2011 with an estimated output of around 300,000 batteries a year, while the lithium ion plant is likely to start production in 2010.
The move reportedly follows the announcement made by Nissan Motor about the advanced mass-production of lithium ion batteries and Honda Motor's plan to introduce four new hybrid vehicles by 2015.
It is claimed that Toyota's batteries are being built by Panasonic EV Energy, a joint venture between Toyota and Japanese electronics company Matsushita Electric.
#752 of 985 Re: Question about Camry Hybrid and driving [larsb]
by stevedebi
May 29, 2008 (11:55 am)
Yes, I had seen the article. However, we are speaking NOW - there is a shortage.
#753 of 985 Re: Question about Camry Hybrid and driving [stevedebi]
by larsb
May 29, 2008 (12:46 pm)
The average Prius selling time right now is still 3 days nationwide. Down from 17 days a couple of months ago.
They are not completely unavailable, but in certain areas they are scarce, true dat.
May 31, 2008 (1:31 am)
I have had my '09 for almost a month; driving in a combination of 'town' and country roads, in hilly and mountainous areas, and trying to drive 'sensibly', I have - so far - gotten between 42 and 45 mpg. I am pleased!
#755 of 985 re: mileage [craigetal]
by mdetrich
May 31, 2008 (4:28 am)
How in the HECK are you getting that kind of mileage on any sort of hills...especially going up? I am driving extremely conscious in town and only getting 35-37 at the most and even on the highway on LONG trips, even staying tucked in behind semi's, have only received 43 avg at the most. I use my cruise control a lot and that really helps but 42 & 45 in major hills? Seems like you would burn the mileage you gained from going "down" when you go "up."
#756 of 985 re: mileage [mdetrich]
by craigetal
May 31, 2008 (7:46 am)
to: mdetrich -
I just try and drive somewhat 'conservatively'; gentle starts, using c/control whenever possible on hwy; etc. I'm hoping that the car being as new as it is isn't a factor [that will disappear]
#757 of 985 re: mileage [mdetrich]
by loves2read
May 31, 2008 (8:08 am)
our mileage for less than a month of having our 09 TCH is about that 34-35.
Most of it is in town on city streets--not freeway driving--and some of it is for short distances but I really try to get the coast effect and to stay on battery--my husband has also when he drives become much more conscious of the higher mpg effect--
on some trips we get the 40+ kudo of excellent when we turn the car off
but sometimes it is avg below 30 because of the distance
I have only put one tank of gas in the car--still have about 1/4 tank to go before the second fill up so I am not sure how the car's total mpg will work out to the actual math of fillup gallons vs miles traveled
I did notice yesterday when I was driving that my needle on the mph gauge/dial was stuck close to the 0 mpg efficiency rating when I was costing and building the battery--there was NO gas being used at that time--so it should have gone down to the bottom of the dial---it did not react correctly until after I had used the gas pedal and engaged the conventional engine--then when I went to the coast mode again the needle dropped to the bottom like it should...
has anyone else had a problem with that--it seems like the needle has sort of a halo effect on it --I am wondering if there is some extra plastic or transparent material stuck to it that might make it hang up instead of just drop when it should...
would be interested in hearing if anyone has noticed the same hesitation in the MPG needle in your TCH....
May 31, 2008 (11:29 am)
as my TCH is still new to me, can someone please explain [to me] just what/how the MPG used analog dial on the left of the instrument display works?; and/or just what it's supposed to indicate? It has not ever matched, shown, what the 'computer' shows on the digital read-out. ">
#759 of 985 '08 Highway MPG
by jcihak
Jun 02, 2008 (7:08 am)
My wife just took our 1 1/2 month old '08 from PA to NC on the highway, driving the speed limit. She averaged 40.0 mpg, about 750 miles round trip. Tire pressure about 37 psi.
I took my '06 Civic (with AT) on the same trip, driving the speed limit, and bumped the tire pressure to 37psi. I got 41.5 mpg average on the highway. This is my best ever with the Civic.
Temperatures were in the 70s and 80s.
#760 of 985 Re: '08 Highway MPG [jcihak]
by stalnaker
Jun 02, 2008 (8:28 am)
Many cars can get 35 mpg or better on the highway, if driven carefully. If more than half of your driving is on the highway, then maybe a hybrid doesn't make sense. Get a diesel instead, like a VW Jetta TDI. But if most of your driving is in the city, then very few cars can consistently get over 30 mpg in those conditions. That's when a hybrid really shines.