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Re: mileage after a long trip [ggav73] by wvgasguy
Jun 26, 2006 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: ggav73 (Jun 26, 2006 4:45 pm)

not as nice as the previous one posted at greenhybrid at same location
 
My wife thought I was crazy. When we pulled into the lot I parked, got out of the car but then noticed the space at the end was empty. I jumped back into the car and backed it into the space and quickly took some pictures before another car came in and parked beside me. I was able to get 45 while on the island but my drive through the VA and WV mountains brought my average down to similar to yours. All in all incredible none the less.
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A/C effect on MPG by gc77584
Jun 27, 2006 (8:45 am)
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I've filled my TCH three times now, and I've got to say I've been a teensy bit disappointed in the MPG I've gotten in comparison with some of the other folks. Not disappointed with the car - I love it - but disappointed that I haven't been able to drive in such a way as to get the mileage that others have reported.
 
The last two tanks have been 37.5 mpg and 36.3 mpg, and that's about 50/50 city/freeway driving. Freeway includes both stretches of several miles of 60-70 mph as well as Houston rush-hour, bumper-to-bumper, stop-n-go traffic. My commute is about 17 miles each way, with a mile or so at each end where I can pretty much run on electric at 35-40 mph. I've followed all the driving suggestions to maximize mileage, but I honestly don't know what else I could do to eke out more MPG. Well, now I think I know.
 
I filled up again last night right before I got home (that was the 36.3 tank) and since it was cool this morning - only about 80 degrees - I decided to try driving to work without the A/C. WOW! What a difference! Windows were up, fan was blowing, but no A/C. I drove my exact same route to work in the exact same manner, but the electric motor was on much more of the time and was quicker to engage. My tank average when I reached work was 43.4 mpg. I'd guess that if I'd had the A/C running that it would've been 37 or maybe 38.
 
Not much I can do about the need for A/C in Houston much of the year, but at least now I can stop wondering what I've been doing "wrong".
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Re: A/C effect on MPG [gc77584] by wvgasguy
Jun 27, 2006 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: gc77584 (Jun 27, 2006 8:45 am)

The A/C in ECO mode should not make that much, if any, difference. I'd look for something else for the reason you were able to get 43.
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Re: A/C effect on MPG [gc77584] by houtex1
Jun 27, 2006 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: gc77584 (Jun 27, 2006 8:45 am)

I am still on my first tank of gas. According to the computer I am averaging 38.2 MPG. My commute is about 12 miles one way to work, but it is not too bad as far as stop 'n go traffic goes. I usually take I-10 West to work and take Memorial Dr heading into the city. What I've found so far is that it is work to keep a good MPG for city driving. You just can't let up for a minute as far as watching the displays etc I went through a 3 day stretch where my MPG was averaging 40. I do keep the A/C on all the time on Eco. The best advice I have seen here is to pick a speed a bit higher than you want to go and then let up on the accelerator. I do this alot, but I must admit that driving in this manner is getting a little old. Maybe it will become second nature at some point... I also find that when I do let up on the accelerator I invariably lose speed and can not maintain the speed I want. Maybe I will get better at this with time also.
 
I do think that if I was driving like I used to in my old car my MPG would probably be in the high 20's. I can't say for sure as I haven't really tried that yet.
 
If there was one improvement I would wish on the TCH, it would be that it recognize when you are going 30 or 35 MPH and go to battery only without having to let go of the accelerator.
 
All in all i am still very happy with my vehicle and still have lots of things that I am learning how to use. Have not even gotten to the Nav system yet.
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Re: A/C effect on MPG [houtex1] by gc77584
Jun 27, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: houtex1 (Jun 27, 2006 9:43 am)

My commute is about 12 miles one way to work, but it is not too bad as far as stop 'n go traffic goes. I usually take I-10 West to work and take Memorial Dr heading into the city. What I've found so far is that it is work to keep a good MPG for city driving. You just can't let up for a minute as far as watching the displays etc I went through a 3 day stretch where my MPG was averaging 40. I do keep the A/C on all the time on Eco. The best advice I have seen here is to pick a speed a bit higher than you want to go and then let up on the accelerator. I do this alot, but I must admit that driving in this manner is getting a little old.
 
I do, I do - I do all that! I take 288 in from Pearland and don't get off until the south edge of downtown so I don't have the benefit of the Memorial stretch It's really only the end of my drive that I can run on battery for any distance, once I get into downtown or once I get back to my subdivision after work. In the beginning of the drive while I'm still in the subdivision the car hasn't warmed up enough. Or coming home the engine is cold during my drive through downtown, though when it's 95+ degrees out it does tend to warm up pretty fast and I do get some battery driving. It's just never very much either way of my commute. It also doesn't help when some a** is riding my bumper, wanting to do 50 in a 35 zone.
 
But...the average mileage I'm getting is still at least 10 mpg greater than on my previous car, so I really shouldn't complain.
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Re: A/C effect on MPG [gc77584] by houtex1
Jun 27, 2006 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: gc77584 (Jun 27, 2006 10:26 am)

I can see where driving downtown where you have lots of stops and starts that your MPG would suffer. I do get some sustained battery time on Memorial when driving home. Coming out on I10 in the mornings is not bad either. I find that getting to a nice speed and then letting up on the accelerator helps on highways also. I'm sure we will all learn some new tricks as we go along. It's really nice that I have yet to stop at a gas station And yes it was unusually cool this morning in Houston. I'll have to try driving without A/C one of these mornings.
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Mileage by primo2
Jun 27, 2006 (5:25 pm)
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i commute between las vegas and los angeles...my first tank i averaged 41.9...that was with the a/c always on...with steep inclines and declines...i was very happy with the mpg...i seem to get the reverse mpg...better on highway than in the city...i have put over 3000 miles since i purchased my TCH on 5/17/06...i really love it all the way around...
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Re: Mileage [primo2] by gillesmtl
Jun 28, 2006 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: primo2 (Jun 27, 2006 5:25 pm)

When I drive on highways, I do get milage in the 40s range, which is great.
 
However, when driving in downtown Montreal, which (to me) is similar to driving in Manhattan, trip milage can be anything between 25 and 40. It all depends on how often green traffic lights let you coast in EV mode.
 
Close-spaced stop signs and red traffic lights are mpg killers because you must begin braking before having even reached 35 mph.
 
I measured (at 300 miles on the ODO) that battery drain and charge currents are under 20 amperes (± 5 HP) in usual conditions. I think the TCH is designed this way to make sure its battery will last for more than 8 years.
 
The dowside of this design choice is that at least 50% of the car's kinetic energy is lost during regenerative breaking.
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by r_nash
Jun 30, 2006 (9:26 am)
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I average in the low 40s. My last tank was 43.2 over 624 miles, which exceeded my expectations!
 
I drive mostly freeway, but always hit rush hour traffic comming home and sometimes on the way to work. It often takes 45 minutes to an hour (or more) to go 25 miles. This week has been hot, 90 to 103F on the way home, so the A/C got a workout too.
 
I try to avoid braking and brake lightly when I have to. I also use B instead of Drive when under 15 mph to better control my speed in bumper to bumper traffic, especially on downhill grades.
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Re: Mileage [primo2] by larsb
Jun 30, 2006 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: primo2 (Jun 27, 2006 5:25 pm)

I too have noticed that the TCH *SEEMS* to do better on hwy MPG than in the City. My best MPG run was 450 miles of ALL hwy driving that registered 42.5 MPG.
 
It does not go to EV mode frequently enough in my opinion to completely utilize the HSD system to it's fullest in City driving.
 
At least my TCH is that way, but I have a very short commute, just 7 miles one way.

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