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Replying to: wvgasguy (Feb 22, 2007 1:03 pm) 
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Replying to: plknj (Feb 22, 2007 1:17 pm)  Cruisin' In EV Mode, Lars PS Lifetime on my TCH after almost 10K miles is 36.2 MPG.
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Replying to: lessachs (Feb 22, 2007 1:31 pm) You'll find many that will argue with you about that. I'm not one of them  It's a waste of money. |
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 22, 2007 2:16 pm) I'm at 19,500+ miles and winter driving has my lifetime down to 38.9 mpg Gas prices are just starting to rise fast again so I would expect to see more interest. |
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Just saw on the "other" site a link to an article about the 2008 EPA ratings. The TCH drops from 39 to 34 mpg. It makes a fairly big deal out of the hybrids not saving near as much gas as they tout. However as you read down there is a chart showing other vehicles and the ICE only vehicles also dropped 10 to 12 % as well. No big deal, my overall savings from a 39mpg average dropping to 34 mpg is still a lot better than a 12% drop in a 16 mpg rating vehicle. Any way I feel really good as I'm averaging 14.7% higher than the EPA 2008 rating. I looked at the F150 and the one I traded got 25% LESS than even the new 2008 rating. All things being equal, I'm guessing real world numbers for hybrids will pass the test of time. Now that gas hit $2.50 again, I'll have to laugh when the EXPEDITION (that's what I drove as a daily driver) drivers tell me I'm not really saving that much by driving my TCH. |
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Replying to: mytchandmb (Feb 20, 2007 8:46 pm) New MPG Estimates May Cause Confusion for Some Consumers New 2008 model year vehicles will be the first to use EPA’s newly revised MPG estimates and, although it’s still early 2007, many of them are already arriving at dealerships. The new ratings are designed to provide more-realistic MPG estimates by factoring in air conditioning use, colder temperatures, higher speeds, and quicker acceleration. Therefore, new tests will likely lower the MPG estimates for all vehicles. This is a welcome change for consumers who felt the old estimates were a bit optimistic, but the new ratings will make it difficult for car buyers to compare 2008 vehicles to those from previous model years tested under the old rating system. Www.fueleconomy.gov has developed a tool to help consumers compare the old and new MPG estimates (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorSelectYear.jsp). Consumers can simply select a pre-2008 vehicle and see what its MPG rating would be under the new system. It also shows real-world MPG estimates for many makes and models provided by other drivers.
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Replying to: lessachs (Feb 23, 2007 12:37 pm)
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Replying to: plknj (Feb 23, 2007 7:49 pm) http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculator.html I currently am significantly under the city (extreme local) mileage on mine, but I easily exceeded all vehicles that I have owned for the highway, even when I go 65 mph with A/C on. Although it may not be practical, they really need to drive the car where the true vehicle load with the wind drag is used. AC |
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Replying to: mytchandmb (Feb 26, 2007 3:56 pm) As long as the measure is consistent, the value is in comparing one car to another. It worked reasonably well until the Prius came along. One EPA spokesperson on TV said on a change was needed "to reflect the changes in how people drive." In the background cars were lined up at a stop light. When the light turned green the sound of squealing tires got the point across. |
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Replying to: mytchandmb (Feb 26, 2007 3:56 pm) Bottom line, what does it matter? They were off before, they'll be off this time as well. Too many different terrains, driving styles and habits to figure in. It's all relative and as long as everyone realizes that then it simply is nothing more than what it was intended to be and that's a guide or estimate. Most people know if they drive hard or easy. In this case I believe the TCH estimate will be easy for anyone to achieve. However we still have a lot of posters getting below 30 mpg.
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