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Toyota Camry Hybrid, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#339 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvrsmith]
Feb 14, 2007 (5:53 am)
OK wvrsmith, let me attempt to help you understand why your mileage is what it is......
The Toyota dealer did not lie to you, and neither did Steve Young. There are people getting 40+ MPG in the TCH - it is possible. But there ARE issues that cloud the whole truth - read on..............
Number one, I don't know if anyone told you yet, but the current EPA test is FLAWED and is going to me modified for the 2008 model year cars. The old test, the one which rated the TCH at 40/38, does not take into effect modern day 2007 driving habits and speeds. It does not take into effect cold engines and short trips. It does not take into effect use of the air conditioner. The test also gives hybrids an unfair "boost" because it allows the hybrids to use the electric battery system in a way which is advantageous to the test results but not reflective of what REAL drivers get in the REAL world.
That's why they are changing the test. The 2008 cars will have much more realistic EPA estimates on the stickers.
Now - me personally, I have owned my TCH since last June, and after 19 tanks I am averaging 36.1 MPG so far, with a low tank of 32.77 MPG and a high tank of 40.6 MPG.
I know how to drive a hybrid for max mpg, as this is my second hybrid car (my first being a manual tranny 2004 HCH) and I have absorbed a lot of tips and tricks into my driving habits. My commute is short and not conducive to high numbers, so I am at a disadvantage for trying to get 40 MPG every tank.
If you WANT to learn how to drive your TCH for max mileage, and it DOES take learning new techniques and the desire to achieve the numbers, then you CAN do it, assuming your commute is favorable. Sounds like it is, because personally I think the only "bad" commutes for a TCH would be two hours at 75 MPH or a five-minute drive at 35 MPH.
So look around, visit some hybrid sites, and use the instrumentation in your TCH to help you figure it all out.
And it you want to get 40 MPG without learning any tricks, then go trade your TCH on a Prius and get the $249 a month lease and drive the Prius any old way you want and you will still get over 40 in that car....
#340 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvrsmith]
Feb 14, 2007 (6:31 am)
I am not sure where you live, or how cold it is there, but I think there is hope for you once the weather warms up. I got my TCH in August and when it was warm I got as high as 42 mpg on a tank and as low as 38 mpg but I was "trying" in town. Now that it is colder, I get 34 mpg on average. I live in Colorado.
#341 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvrsmith]
Feb 14, 2007 (12:50 pm)
I drive a lot of highway miles and average pretty much 39 mpg. It is slightly less in the winter, right at 40 in warm weather. Around town it goes down to about 34 mpg. I have 17k on the car in 6 months. I found that doing all the tricks gives me 1 or 2 mpg, but I got tired of driving like a grandpa so I just drive it normal, use cruise control as often as possible, and that's it.
#342 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvrsmith]
Feb 14, 2007 (6:58 pm)
There is a topic thread on tips on Edmunds.
I'm averaging 39mpg after 18,000 miles. Trips 37 to 30, rural driving 39+mpg. I don't have to drive in congested cities though.
Winter driving is down for me considerably around 35.5 to 37 but I don't drive it in the snow so it will get fewer miles over the first few months of the year.
#343 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvgasguy]
Feb 20, 2007 (8:46 pm)
We probably have the worst MPG from what I seen on the forum. Our MPG has dropped down to 26 MPG (from 29 in the summer) since we hit 5K in Dec. and using winter formulated low emmissions 10% ethanol fuel. It is driven in LI NY. Our trip consists of extremely short trips typically < 5 miles/10 minute trips with temperatures in the 20's. As a comparison, a co-worker of ours get 33+ on 40 minute trip to work. In comparision our other car with a EPA rating of 19 get 13 in identical driving.
#344 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [mytchandmb]
Feb 21, 2007 (5:08 am)
In comparision our other car with a EPA rating of 19 get 13 in identical driving.
It's all relative. EPA ratings can't possibly cover all driving conditions. I get 39 but I don't have to drive it to work.
30% less gas rather it's going from 13 to 19 is still 30% less gas. It's still nice to know that if you do escape LI you can get in the 30+'s
#345 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [mytchandmb]
Feb 21, 2007 (7:09 am)
I do very short trips in cold weather. My average: 24mpg.
I had the dealer check my TCH out. He said eveyrthing is fine that a 30% or so drop in mpg is to be expected.
#346 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [lessachs]
Feb 22, 2007 (1:03 pm)
I had the dealer check my TCH out. He said eveyrthing is fine that a 30% or so drop in mpg is to be expected
True, but I'm guessing much of your problem is the short trips and you won't be hypermiling even when it gets warmer. Were it warmer this would still put you at or below 30mpg. Possibly not bad for your particular commute. Still with some practice and "hybrid driving" miles under your belt I see no reason to not get 35+ on normal driving.
#347 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [larsb]
Feb 22, 2007 (1:17 pm)
Wanted to say 'Thanks' for your tips. I was averaging 33-34 mpg on a 100 mile a day drive. Everything you said is true... went to a couple of hybrid sites and had to learn how to drive at 54 years old! But it works and it slowed me down a bit... I am finding driving more relaxing and am getting 37-39 mpg in cold weather. My only complaint is that I wish the hills I have to travel were flatter... but I guess I can't change everything.
#348 of 1003 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry Mileage [wvgasguy]
Feb 22, 2007 (1:31 pm)
Thank you. When I got the car in November and the weather was warmer, I was doing 32-35 mpg in town. I'm hoping for the same this Spring. BTW, I had debate with a co-worker about using high octane fuel. I put in a tank of 93 octane and true to eveyrone's advice on this blog--it didn't make a bit of difference.