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Replying to: wvrsmith (Feb 13, 2007 9:40 pm) Yes, where possible I follow the coast recommendation, when I can see ahead that traffic is slowing or coming to a stop. It works. Very short, 2-5 mile, cold weather trips reduce my mileage to 34-35. I expect that will improve with the weather. In general, I'm pleased with the car. |
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Replying to: wvrsmith (Feb 13, 2007 9:40 pm)  The Toyota dealer did not lie to you, and neither did Steve Young. There are people getting 40+ MPG in the TCH - it is possible. But there ARE issues that cloud the whole truth - read on.............. Number one, I don't know if anyone told you yet, but the current EPA test is FLAWED and is going to me modified for the 2008 model year cars. The old test, the one which rated the TCH at 40/38, does not take into effect modern day 2007 driving habits and speeds. It does not take into effect cold engines and short trips. It does not take into effect use of the air conditioner. The test also gives hybrids an unfair "boost" because it allows the hybrids to use the electric battery system in a way which is advantageous to the test results but not reflective of what REAL drivers get in the REAL world. That's why they are changing the test. The 2008 cars will have much more realistic EPA estimates on the stickers. Now - me personally, I have owned my TCH since last June, and after 19 tanks I am averaging 36.1 MPG so far, with a low tank of 32.77 MPG and a high tank of 40.6 MPG. I know how to drive a hybrid for max mpg, as this is my second hybrid car (my first being a manual tranny 2004 HCH) and I have absorbed a lot of tips and tricks into my driving habits. My commute is short and not conducive to high numbers, so I am at a disadvantage for trying to get 40 MPG every tank. If you WANT to learn how to drive your TCH for max mileage, and it DOES take learning new techniques and the desire to achieve the numbers, then you CAN do it, assuming your commute is favorable. Sounds like it is, because personally I think the only "bad" commutes for a TCH would be two hours at 75 MPH or a five-minute drive at 35 MPH. So look around, visit some hybrid sites, and use the instrumentation in your TCH to help you figure it all out. And it you want to get 40 MPG without learning any tricks, then go trade your TCH on a Prius and get the $249 a month lease and drive the Prius any old way you want and you will still get over 40 in that car.... Good Luck....
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Replying to: wvrsmith (Feb 13, 2007 9:40 pm) I'm averaging 39mpg after 18,000 miles. Trips 37 to 30, rural driving 39+mpg. I don't have to drive in congested cities though. Winter driving is down for me considerably around 35.5 to 37 but I don't drive it in the snow so it will get fewer miles over the first few months of the year.
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Feb 14, 2007 6:58 pm) |
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Replying to: mytchandmb (Feb 20, 2007 8:46 pm) It's all relative. EPA ratings can't possibly cover all driving conditions. I get 39 but I don't have to drive it to work. 30% less gas rather it's going from 13 to 19 is still 30% less gas. It's still nice to know that if you do escape LI you can get in the 30+'s |
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Replying to: mytchandmb (Feb 20, 2007 8:46 pm) I had the dealer check my TCH out. He said eveyrthing is fine that a 30% or so drop in mpg is to be expected. 
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Replying to: lessachs (Feb 21, 2007 7:09 am) True, but I'm guessing much of your problem is the short trips and you won't be hypermiling even when it gets warmer. Were it warmer this would still put you at or below 30mpg. Possibly not bad for your particular commute. Still with some practice and "hybrid driving" miles under your belt I see no reason to not get 35+ on normal driving.
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 14, 2007 5:53 am)
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