Toyota Camry Hybrid MPG-Real World Numbers

Replying to: patfla (Dec 06, 2006 2:52 pm)

They don't hide it.
 
Without the ICE to re-charge the battery, significant damage can be done to it, and shorten its life dramatically. That is why the computer orders the shut-down.
 
How many people are we talking about here? If a person routinely runs out of gas, our primary concern should be if they actually have enough mental capacity to have a license.

Replying to: stinkpot1 (Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm)

I'm in Colorado too, and in the cold, I've gone from averaging 40.2 per tank down to 34-37, depending on driving conditions. We have the special winter fuels to reduce pollution, and that always drops everyone's FE. I wish it was running at my usual 40 mpg, but I'll adjust through the winter. Plus I need to check my tire pressure because I've not done that since it got cold. If it is happening to everyone, it has to be the weather.

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Now that winter is fully here you might want to take into consideration some of the following factors which can often be outside your control entirely. These generally act to decrease your fuel economy. But, hey, it's the same for every vehicle on the road as well. For some it's even worse.
 
Factors affecting your FE ( and everyone else's also, btw ) in decending order of importance...
1) Towing anything is a huge penalty possibly as much as a 50% reduction in FE
2) Lots of weight in the vehicle, passengers cargo etc. ( EPA tests are done empty ) deduct up to 20% from your 'Norm'
3) Short trips under 10 min - deduct 20% from your 'Norm'
4) Snow, Rain, sleet - deduct 15%
5) Strong head wind - deduct 10%
6) Cold weather - deduct 5 - 10%
7) High speed driving 0ver 70 mph - deduct 5 - 10%
8) Many starts from a dead stop ( going from stop sign to stop sign to stop sign ) - deduct 5 - 10%
9) Terrain - fortunately 'what goes up..' usually this balances out on a RT
10) Winter fuel - deduct 2 - 5%
11) Low tire pressure - ? How low
 
Now these are cumulative, so short trips with a lot of stops ( -20% )( -5% ) in winter ( -7% ) on slick pavement ( -15% ) can result in as much as a 40 - 50% loss from your personal 'Norm'. The bright side of this is that your 'Norm' is higher than most others at 39 mpg. If your Norm was only 26 mpg for example you might expect to get 13-15 mpg.
 
This is really really important when you consider how much more fuel you use in cold weather but also how much less you use relatively to a an ICE-only V6 driver. ( See below )
 
TCH 'Norm' 39 mpg uses 25.6 gal per 1000 mi driven
TCH 'Winter' 25 mpg uses 40 gal per 1000 mi driven
 
ICE 'Norm' 26 mpg uses 38.5 gal per 1000 mi driven
ICE 'Winter' 15 mpg uses 66.7 gal per 1000 mi driven
 
In 'Normal' driving an ICE driver will only use about 13 gal more than a TCH driver for every 1000 mi. In 'Winter' however, that ICE driver will now use over 28 gal more than a TCH driver for the same 1000 mi.
 
Enjoy your hybrid. It will be Spring soon.

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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 3:20 pm)

I have posted here before complaining about my TCH's low fuel economy. Back then I have only used the chippest gas (87) and my tank avg was ranging from 34-36 mpg. Last week, because of the storm in seattle area the only available gas they had at the gas station(shell) was the highest octane gas (i'm not sure if it was 95 or 93????). With the same road condition and driving style, now the computer indicates the tank avg of 42 mpg .
I don't know if someone already have talked about this but yeah,,,try the higest rated gas if your car gives you less than 38 mpg and let me know if it improves it.

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