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Bought my TCH back in June. And I too was surprised both here in the forums and in computing my actual gas mileage about the '3 gallons'. Called my dealership. It's called a or the 'reserve'. And why is that? It seems that with hybrids or HSD or whatever, if you ever completely run out of gas, there's no way you can restart your car for yourself (no filling a jerry can and then pouring its contents into your tank). Your TCH can only be restarted after it's been towed to a delearship. And why is this? They wouldn't say. It's obviously not something they advertise. Toyota really doesn't want you to run fully out of gas.
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Replying to: patfla (Dec 06, 2006 2:52 pm) Without the ICE to re-charge the battery, significant damage can be done to it, and shorten its life dramatically. That is why the computer orders the shut-down. How many people are we talking about here? If a person routinely runs out of gas, our primary concern should be if they actually have enough mental capacity to have a license. |
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Replying to: stinkpot1 (Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm)
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Replying to: unknown (Dec 06, 2006 6:08 pm) |
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Now that winter is fully here you might want to take into consideration some of the following factors which can often be outside your control entirely. These generally act to decrease your fuel economy. Factors affecting your FE ( and everyone else's also, btw ) in decending order of importance... 1) Towing anything is a huge penalty possibly as much as a 50% reduction in FE 2) Lots of weight in the vehicle, passengers cargo etc. ( EPA tests are done empty ) deduct up to 20% from your 'Norm' 3) Short trips under 10 min - deduct 20% from your 'Norm' 4) Snow, Rain, sleet - deduct 15% 5) Strong head wind - deduct 10% 6) Cold weather - deduct 5 - 10% 7) High speed driving 0ver 70 mph - deduct 5 - 10% 8) Many starts from a dead stop ( going from stop sign to stop sign to stop sign ) - deduct 5 - 10% 9) Terrain - fortunately 'what goes up..' usually this balances out on a RT 10) Winter fuel - deduct 2 - 5% 11) Low tire pressure - ? How low Now these are cumulative, so short trips with a lot of stops ( -20% )( -5% ) in winter ( -7% ) on slick pavement ( -15% ) can result in as much as a 40 - 50% loss from your personal 'Norm'. The bright side of this is that your 'Norm' is higher than most others at 39 mpg. If your Norm was only 26 mpg for example you might expect to get 13-15 mpg. This is really really important when you consider how much more fuel you use in cold weather but also how much less you use relatively to a an ICE-only V6 driver. ( See below ) TCH 'Norm' TCH 'Winter' ICE 'Norm' ICE 'Winter' In 'Normal' driving an ICE driver will only use about 13 gal more than a TCH driver for every 1000 mi. In 'Winter' however, that ICE driver will now use over 28 gal more than a TCH driver for the same 1000 mi. Enjoy your hybrid. It will be Spring soon.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 3:20 pm) I don't know if someone already have talked about this but yeah,,,try the higest rated gas if your car gives you less than 38 mpg and let me know if it improves it.
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Replying to: inincubus (Dec 22, 2006 2:18 pm) But back to reality: there is not an iota of scientific evidence that higher octane gas provides higher MPG. If there was, then everyone would just use 95 or 93 octane and the 86/87/89 would just stop being made. |
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2006 2:27 pm) from 35 to 42,,,this didn't happen slowly over long period of time. but over just one gas tank. i'm going to experiment more. so this time I will use 87 again and see what MPG i get. Question for those who get better than 42 mpg; what type/rate of gas do you use? |
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Replying to: inincubus (Dec 22, 2006 2:40 pm) In warmer weather, I was doing closer to 40. A lot of the gas we use here is 10% ethanol which drops mpg, too. I'd like to know if anyone in the midwest with my winter weather conditions and fuel blend is doing 40 or more. If they are, I'm doing something wrong. Thanks. |
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