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Replying to: mjones12 (Dec 05, 2006 4:50 pm) |
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Replying to: mjones12 (Dec 05, 2006 4:50 pm) I might have bought that earlier before I bought the car. NOT. After 16,500 miles I have not seen my tank expand. I'm really hoping it's not that flexible. The last poster mentioned that you will have about 3 gallons left after the light comes on. Believe it. There are threads to document this and several people have went well past the light (I've gone 60 miles past the light myself). It's true that the cruising range indication may increase as you gain better averages but that's just an indication of estimated range based on the "E" mark. If you're averaging say 40 mpg and started with a full tank you have well over 100 miles to you're actually empty. Look back at the other thread topics and "catch up" on past comments, it's well worth your time to read these. Fortunately Edmunds has a topic thread unlike the "other" forum where topics are not indexed and seem to shift all over the place in any given thread. These are more educational. Give them a look. |
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Bought my TCH back in June. And I too was surprised both here in the forums and in computing my actual gas mileage about the '3 gallons'. Called my dealership. It's called a or the 'reserve'. And why is that? It seems that with hybrids or HSD or whatever, if you ever completely run out of gas, there's no way you can restart your car for yourself (no filling a jerry can and then pouring its contents into your tank). Your TCH can only be restarted after it's been towed to a delearship. And why is this? They wouldn't say. It's obviously not something they advertise. Toyota really doesn't want you to run fully out of gas.
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Replying to: patfla (Dec 06, 2006 2:52 pm) Without the ICE to re-charge the battery, significant damage can be done to it, and shorten its life dramatically. That is why the computer orders the shut-down. How many people are we talking about here? If a person routinely runs out of gas, our primary concern should be if they actually have enough mental capacity to have a license. 
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Replying to: stinkpot1 (Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm) 
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Replying to: mjones12 (Dec 05, 2006 4:50 pm) |
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Replying to: unknown (Dec 06, 2006 6:08 pm) |
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Now that winter is fully here you might want to take into consideration some of the following factors which can often be outside your control entirely. These generally act to decrease your fuel economy.  But, hey, it's the same for every vehicle on the road as well. For some it's even worse. Factors affecting your FE ( and everyone else's also, btw ) in decending order of importance... 1) Towing anything is a huge penalty possibly as much as a 50% reduction in FE 2) Lots of weight in the vehicle, passengers cargo etc. ( EPA tests are done empty ) deduct up to 20% from your 'Norm' 3) Short trips under 10 min - deduct 20% from your 'Norm' 4) Snow, Rain, sleet - deduct 15% 5) Strong head wind - deduct 10% 6) Cold weather - deduct 5 - 10% 7) High speed driving 0ver 70 mph - deduct 5 - 10% 8) Many starts from a dead stop ( going from stop sign to stop sign to stop sign ) - deduct 5 - 10% 9) Terrain - fortunately 'what goes up..' usually this balances out on a RT 10) Winter fuel - deduct 2 - 5% 11) Low tire pressure - ? How low Now these are cumulative, so short trips with a lot of stops ( -20% )( -5% ) in winter ( -7% ) on slick pavement ( -15% ) can result in as much as a 40 - 50% loss from your personal 'Norm'. The bright side of this is that your 'Norm' is higher than most others at 39 mpg. If your Norm was only 26 mpg for example you might expect to get 13-15 mpg. This is really really important when you consider how much more fuel you use in cold weather but also how much less you use relatively to a an ICE-only V6 driver. ( See below ) TCH 'Norm'  39 mpg uses 25.6 gal per 1000 mi driven TCH 'Winter' 25 mpg uses 40 gal per 1000 mi driven ICE 'Norm' 26 mpg uses 38.5 gal per 1000 mi driven ICE 'Winter' 15 mpg uses 66.7 gal per 1000 mi driven In 'Normal' driving an ICE driver will only use about 13 gal more than a TCH driver for every 1000 mi. In 'Winter' however, that ICE driver will now use over 28 gal more than a TCH driver for the same 1000 mi. Enjoy your hybrid. It will be Spring soon. 
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 3:20 pm) I don't know if someone already have talked about this but yeah,,,try the higest rated gas if your car gives you less than 38 mpg and let me know if it improves it. 
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Replying to: inincubus (Dec 22, 2006 2:18 pm) But back to reality: there is not an iota of scientific evidence that higher octane gas provides higher MPG. If there was, then everyone would just use 95 or 93 octane and the 86/87/89 would just stop being made. |
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