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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [bnewins] by standard_chimp
Jun 22, 2006 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: bnewins (Jun 21, 2006 11:04 am)

I’ve seen several comments regarding mileage with respect to air conditioners and opened or closed windows. My understanding is that the aerodynamics of the car favors having the windows closed and the decreased drag offsets any power expended by the air conditioners. I would guess this would especially be the case for highway travel where you’d have greater air resistance and the gas engine would produce excess electrical power.
 
Anyway, I’ve been on the fence as to whether to buy the Camry Hybrid or a Volkswagen TDI, but today we’re in a Red Ozone alert and I think that might be the tipping point. That and the decision of my employee to rebate $3,000 for the purchase of a new hybrid.
 
But if someone could help me, I’ve read a couple of reviews (could be the same disgruntled poster) complaining of lunging at highway speeds – caused by backing off the accelerator which causes the gas engine to shut down, and then when the driver compensates, the gas engine kicks back in and the car lurches. Has anyone noticed this or is this just another internet urban legend?
 
Also, how is the car at 70-80 mph? I know that’s past the sweet spot but there’s a lot to be said for not being run over!
 
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Toyota Camry Hybrid: owner comments by r_nash
Jun 22, 2006 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: standard_chimp (Jun 22, 2006 4:23 am)

Standard Chimp asks about "reviews complaining of lunging at highway speeds". I've put 500 miles on my new Camry Hybrid and have been very pleased with how smooth the drivetrain and ride is. I've never felt any thing close to lunging or lurching.
  
If you coast down a grade on the freeway with your foot off the gas, then very slightly touch the gas, sometimes you can feel the electric traction motor switch from regen to providing power. It is a very subtle change, simply a switch from the car holding it's speed coasting to a gentle increase in speed. Any thing more than a very slight touch simply brings on the power smoothly. I would hardly call it a "lurch". You can change the info display to see if the traction motor is providing power or regen, and if the ICE is providing power.
 
Several times I've been suprised to find myself doing 80. The car is so quiet that there is little difference in sensation between 65 and 80. Test drive one on the freeway if you get a chance - I think you will be pleased.
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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [standard_chimp] by droid13
Jun 22, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: standard_chimp (Jun 22, 2006 4:23 am)

I’ve read a couple of reviews (could be the same disgruntled poster) complaining of lunging at highway speeds
 
What I've found is that on the highway the engine rpm will alter up or down a lot more than on a car where the engine is directly responsible for driving the wheels. Hearing this can be a bit unsettling at first because it could almost be described as sounding like a regular automatic tranny slipping. Of course, in this car the engine is computer controlled and mainly running the generator so there isn't any relevent speed to rpm correlation (propably why this car has no tach, Toyota probably figured they'd get too many complaints about weird stuff happening with the engine). My gut feel at this time is that this lurching issue is an auditory perception issue. Your brain hears something and associates it to a familiar situation, and can convince itself that it's feeling the same thing even though the car continues to ride steady. Time will tell...
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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [standard_chimp] by bnewins
Jun 22, 2006 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: standard_chimp (Jun 22, 2006 4:23 am)

The TCH is so quiet and smooth that if you pay close attention you might notice subtle changes. This car is the wave of the future. I couldn't be more pleased.
 
BTW, I find 70 mph plenty fast enough. Just let all those left laners go like hell. Someone has to start slowing down. Besides you will pass them when they stop for gas.
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improving your gas mileage by toyotanysales
Jun 22, 2006 (7:46 am)
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first off I am not an owner but a salesmen for toyota, toyota has a few teams out driving the all new camry and stopping in dealerships and explaining their experience,
 
Like most new toyota dealers mine is no different we dont have the cars in stock but have more then most area dealers coming in, as a salesperson it is hard to really get to know the camry hybrid without alot of research and feed back from people that are actually driving them.
 
Now the two guys that were at my dealership said that they didnt get their best gas mileage on the first second or third tank full but with over 5000 miles under their belt of city and highway driving they learned many things about gas mileage and had some really good advice on achieving the best mileage possible.
 
First air conditioning and climate control is ALL electric which means when used properly you will actually acheive better mileage then cruising with the windows down. All toyota hybrids have an economy setting for the climate control. When seated in a driving position it is located on the lower left of the dash. almost under the dash actually, next to the trunk release. By engaging this feature you allow the computer to supply a steady flow of electricity to the climate control, allowing the computer to not have SPIKES in power required for the air conditioning to be used, There are two things with this, first you can not use the extreme tempature LO for air HI for heat, you must turn it at least one degree of these settings, for maximum cooling set the climate control to 65 degrees and you will see that the ECO light in the middle of the climate display will be lit up. now turn it to the LOW setting and you will see it shuts off the ECONOMY system. this will increase your gas mileage and allow you to use all the features of the car.
 
Next you have to remember that this is a very smart car, like chocolate and vanilla people drive differently, there is a learning curve required by the car and yourself, drive the car like you normally would, it is a car for enjoyment, enjoy it, the car will learn how you drive compute these facts and you will see the gas mileage increase as you and the car learn how each other operate.
 
If you have any questions regarding your new toyota camry feel free to drop me a line if I dont know the answer I will surely be happy to get it for you
 
in closing remember there are many ways to increase mileage ratings, using cruise control and maintaining a speed of 55 are some of the best when traveling on the highway.
 
Enjoy your new toyota
John C
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Re: improving your gas mileage [toyotanysales] by bnewins
Jun 22, 2006 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: toyotanysales (Jun 22, 2006 7:46 am)

Thanks John. Great post. I was wondering about how the ECO setting worked.
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Re: improving your gas mileage [bnewins] by toyotanysales
Jun 22, 2006 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: bnewins (Jun 22, 2006 8:04 am)

my pleasure, just remember to turn the settings up or down one degree and the ECO button will do everything else for you. this is really a great feature that wasnt explained in detail when I received the salesmans information packet on the hybrid, when the two gentleman stopped by the dealership I came in on my day off to learn more about this truely amazing car.
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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [bnewins] by standard_chimp
Jun 22, 2006 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: bnewins (Jun 22, 2006 7:46 am)

Everyone, thanks, I appreciate all of you taking the time to respond.
 
And to "newins", the left laners are going 90!
 
Standard Chimpanzee
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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [standard_chimp] by wvgasguy
Jun 22, 2006 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: standard_chimp (Jun 22, 2006 4:23 am)

Has anyone noticed this or is this just another internet urban legend?
 
It's NOT a problem
 
Also, how is the car at 70-80 mph?
 
FE suffers some, but the power is there! Especially if you're comparing it to a VW TDI. I traded in from an Infiniti FX45 with 315 HP and I am more than satisfied with the acceleration of the TCH.
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Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: When is the First Service? [wvgasguy] by wvgasguy
Jun 22, 2006 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jun 22, 2006 11:13 am)

There are some interesting posts on GreenHybrid.com as well as a milage database (I'm currently at 38.4mpg)

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