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#299 of 856 Mileage in Mountains by sallyspal Nov 26, 2006 (10:01 am)
This is not surprising, but I thought I'd share my experience driving to and from Vermont for Thanksgiving. We live in Central New Jersey, not far from the shore and only about 100 feet above sea level. During our 325 mile trip to Vermont for Thanksgiving we averaged about 33 mpg on highways in generally cool weather with the heater (ECO setting) running at 68 degrees. During the trip north we climbed to over 1,000 feet above sea level (frequently exceeding 2,500 feet).   On the way home we reversed this trip and returned to 100 feet above sea level, attaining about 38 mpg (under similar driving conditions). I guess I can attribute this 15% improvement in fuel economy to the downhill run on the long ride home! Has anyone had similar experiences? Replies to this message: lzc (Nov 26, 2006 2:32 pm) hoop43 (Nov 28, 2006 1:18 pm) lessachs (Nov 28, 2006 3:21 pm)
#300 of 856 Re: Mileage in Mountains [sallyspal] by lzc Nov 26, 2006 (2:32 pm)
Replying to: sallyspal (Nov 26, 2006 10:01 am) Absolutely! You will enjoy significant gains in mileage when going downhill. The gas engine shuts down more, the electric motor powers the car more, or at least assists more, and then there's the wonderful power of gravity.   I live in Oregon. Lots of hills. My first few trips uphill caused me to grimace at the poor mileage and wonder about this miracle of hybrid power. And then I drove back home.
#301 of 856 Re: Mileage in Mountains [sallyspal] by hoop43 Nov 28, 2006 (1:18 pm)
Replying to: sallyspal (Nov 26, 2006 10:01 am) A week ago we returned from our first long trip in our TCH. We purchased in June and had about 2800 miles on the car.   We traveled from Sacramento CA area to Tehachapi CA, a 350 mile trip one way. Eighty percent of the trip was pretty flat interstate travel with traffic moving at 80-85 mph. The last 50 miles was climbing to 4000 feet from a couple of hundred feet (and then down hill on the return trip).   We averaged 37 mpg on both the going and returning leg of trip (pleasantly pleased). ECO on of course. I drove the entire trip and did not make much effort to use TCH driving methods (some but not a lot). Temperature was in the 60's.   Normal around town mpg is usually 32-34 mpg depending on stop and go. I did average a sustained 50 mpg on the freeway for a six mile trip with a very slight down incline one time. Sustained mpg on the freeway at the 70-75 mph range is usually 39-40 mpg. Replies to this message: lessachs (Nov 28, 2006 3:21 pm)
#302 of 856 Re: Mileage in Mountains [hoop43] by lessachs Nov 28, 2006 (3:21 pm)
Replying to: hoop43 (Nov 28, 2006 1:18 pm) I have a new TCH. Bought it last Tuesday, brand new, with 14 miles on the odometer. We took a Thanksgiving trip from the plains of Illinois to the mountains of East Tennessee and back..1200 miles total. We averaged 40 mpg for the trip. Since returning to my normal work driving schedule this week, I'm averaging 38 mpg in town. I traded in an '05 Prius that was getting 8-10 miles more per gallon. The Camry is such a better car when it comes to comfort and ride that I'm glad I made the switch.
#303 of 856 How much do I have to pay for new TCH? by canada2007 Nov 28, 2006 (8:44 pm)
Hi all   I am planning to purchase TCH soon and needing your advise on price I should pay for this vehicle. I would like to add leather seats as only option. Please assist. Replies to this message: lzc (Nov 29, 2006 4:37 pm)
#304 of 856 Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [wvgasguy] by grg Nov 29, 2006 (4:11 pm)
Replying to: wvgasguy (Nov 18, 2006 1:21 pm) Well, here in Colorado, the high was 22 degrees today, the low will be around zero, and the electric engine hasn't hardly been coming on, I am getting 24-28 mpg instead of 38-42. I was warned of a drop, but am surprised. The car runs fine, it is just the ICE is on almost all the time. g
#305 of 856 Re: How much do I have to pay for new TCH? [canada2007] by lzc Nov 29, 2006 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: canada2007 (Nov 28, 2006 8:44 pm) I assume you're buying in Canada? If so, experience from those of us in the US may not be of much value. Here, the tax credit was cut in half Oct. 1, to $1300. That seemed to slow sales a bit, at least some dealers actually had stock of a car or two for the first time. "Deals" are hard to come by under those circumstances.   Demand may not slacken until April when the tax credit is reduced again. Of course, it may not slacken at all if gas prices head higher.
#306 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [pf_flyer] by mjones12 Dec 05, 2006 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: pf_flyer (May 24, 2006 9:09 am) When I fill the tank, to almost overflowing, my range shows as only about 550 miles. Based on the 17.2-gallon tank, this comes out to about 32 mpg. Not good. The Toyota service guy says the range will eventually get to about 650 upon fillup. He says the TCH has an "expanding tank" which will hold more fuel later. He says with every fillup it should expand to hold more fuel until it can finally hold 17.2 gallons. Has anyone heard of this, or is it just nuts. However, there must be some reason why my range is only showing as 550. Any ideas? Replies to this message: gillesmtl (Dec 05, 2006 8:10 pm) wvgasguy (Dec 06, 2006 5:02 am) sallyspal (Dec 10, 2006 8:41 am) jjyang (Jul 16, 2007 6:21 pm) gampa (Jul 17, 2007 4:17 pm) joe131 (Jul 17, 2007 6:34 pm) jjyang (Jul 17, 2007 6:37 pm) and 1 more... joe131 (Jul 16, 2007 6:34 pm) jjyang (Jul 16, 2007 6:52 pm)
#307 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [mjones12] by gillesmtl Dec 05, 2006 (8:10 pm)
Replying to: mjones12 (Dec 05, 2006 4:50 pm) It has been well documented in this forum that the "Empty" mark is reached when there are 3 gallons left in the tank. Computer calculations are based on 14 gallons between "Full" and "Empty", not on 17.2. So your real range is close to 100 miles over the 550 miles being displayed.
#308 of 856 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid: Real World Mileage Numbers [mjones12] by wvgasguy Dec 06, 2006 (5:02 am)
Replying to: mjones12 (Dec 05, 2006 4:50 pm) Has anyone heard of this, or is it just nuts. However, there must be some reason why my range is only showing as 550. Any ideas?   I might have bought that earlier before I bought the car. NOT.   After 16,500 miles I have not seen my tank expand. I'm really hoping it's not that flexible. The last poster mentioned that you will have about 3 gallons left after the light comes on. Believe it. There are threads to document this and several people have went well past the light (I've gone 60 miles past the light myself).   It's true that the cruising range indication may increase as you gain better averages but that's just an indication of estimated range based on the "E" mark. If you're averaging say 40 mpg and started with a full tank you have well over 100 miles to you're actually empty.   Look back at the other thread topics and "catch up" on past comments, it's well worth your time to read these. Fortunately Edmunds has a topic thread unlike the "other" forum where topics are not indexed and seem to shift all over the place in any given thread.   These are more educational. Give them a look.

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