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Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [inincubus] by sallyspal
Nov 05, 2006 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am)

You sound very impatient and perhaps more than a little unprepared when you bought your TCH. You really haven't driven enough to come to any conclusions about your mileage - track a couple of tankfuls first then look at your results. Try to correlate your mileage with driving conditions. Stop and go traffic will hurt your fuel economy no matter how you baby the engine. So will colder weather (my mileage is down about 2-3 mpg's since mid-October).
 
Regarding the "annoying" sounds. Did you test drive the car before buying it? Its normal for the car to whine a little as you decelerate. The car also makes all kinds of noises after you've turned it off, that's normal as well. Its also normal for you to experience a slight shudder upon accelerating. And the brakes are a little "high" because they help regenerate the battery - normal.
 
You might want to give your self some more time to learn how to operate your TCH and to appreciate the special qualities of this car. Otherwise you are going to be mighty unhappy and I don't see how you can make a "lemon law" case based on behavior that is perfectly normal in this car.
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Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [inincubus] by larsb
Nov 06, 2006 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am)

Chances are VERY SLIM that there is any "defect" with your car.
 
This is your first hybrid car, correct?
 
My first hybrid was a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid. My first tank was 37 MPG. My lifetime average in that car ended up just over 48 MPG for 28,000 miles of driving it over two years.
 
The first tank, even the first few tanks, are always low in your first hybrid, as you learn how to make use of the technology to maximize your MPG.
 
Other factors are the length of your trips, the air in your tires, and as others have said, you most important factor is your driving style.
 
If you are like most people, you rush around when driving, wanting to spend as little time as possible on the road. This bad habit will lead to lower than expected MPG in ANY car.
 
And you cannot "lemon law" a car because of low mileage. If there is something wrong with the car which is CAUSING the low mileage, then Toyota has chances to fix it first.
 
MY guess is that there is not a thing wrong with your car.
 
I know how to drive a hybrid and my TCH lifetime MPG is about 36.8 MPG after about nine tanks.
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Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [inincubus] by tsy
Nov 06, 2006 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am)

I live in Seattle and am always driving up and down hills- my mileage has been 34-35. I do expect the mileage to improve as the car breaks in, however.
 
I'm sure you'll get better at driving it. Theres a whole thread on driving strategies which might help you.
 
I for one, am happy to be getting 35mpg in a car this large. My wife get's about 12mpg in her SUV.
 
tom
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2007 Toyota Camry HV (Hybrid Vehicle) by agnosto
Nov 07, 2006 (4:59 am)
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My 2nd tank was manually calculated at 43.23MPG (AVG TANK 45.6MPG and NAV screen 43.6MPG) of a total 589 miles mixed driving (70%/30% city/hwy) without CC and A/C........ wow, what can I say the 2007 TCH is truly one awesome HYBRID vehicle!!!!!!!
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Re: 2007 Toyota Camry HV (Hybrid Vehicle) by skibeech
Nov 08, 2006 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: agnosto (Nov 07, 2006 4:59 am)

I've had my TCH since September 1 and have averaged 38 -40 mpg. Outstanding as far as I am concerened. I've gone from gasing up every 5 days (had a Chrysler Pacifica) to 17 days.
 
Woth the wait and worth the price for this outstanding car.
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Question about "eco" mode by mfreeman1943
Nov 15, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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I've been enjoying my TCH for almost 2 months now. As the weather got colder (Vancouver, BC) my gas consumption has increased. since I drive a lot of short trips, the ICE remains on most of the time.
 
What I seem to notice is that pressing the "eco" button will sometimes cause the ICE to switch off. I'm not using the air conditioning, but I'm wondering if the heat setting without eco keeps the engine on more.
 
Does anyone know (beyond what's in the manual) what the effect of the eco button really is?
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Re: Question about "eco" mode [mfreeman1943] by wvgasguy
Nov 15, 2006 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: mfreeman1943 (Nov 15, 2006 1:15 pm)

I'm wondering if the heat setting without eco keeps the engine on more.
 
I understood from other postings that the ECO setting when using the heat limits the amount of heat pulled away from the ICE for heating the interior, thus keeping the ICE "warmer". As long as you don't get cold leave it on ECO.
 
Perhaps someone more knowledgable can shed some details. I didn't find my car getting hot with the ECO A/C setting this summer so I'm expecting the car to stay warm with the ECO Heat setting.
 
My biggest complaint is when I kick on the defroster, the ECO goes off and then I have to kick it back on when I switch the mode back to the floor or dash.
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Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [wvgasguy] by stinkpot1
Nov 17, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Nov 05, 2006 12:05 pm)

I am getting concerned with my FE as it seems to be decreasing. I am currently at 29.3 MPG. It has progessively dropped from the first tanks which were around 39 mpg. I am at 3500 miles now. I drive the same routes and same way. I have made many attempts to keep the car in elec mode especially when driving sidestreets to and from work. No luck. The ICE always turns on regardless of speed of acceleration, ECO, no air, no heat no nuthin, etc. I noticed that along with the rumble of the ICE starting i get a double bump in the engine or trans when the ICE engages. This does not seem normal. I started the car up the other day after 3 days off and the engine sounded like a cat was stuck in the fan belt for about 15 seconds. Runs fine now. Although the weather is getting colder here in Illinois I was getting better FE in the summer with the ac blowing all day. Has anyone experienced the same low Fe and any issues with the double bump when the ICE starts?
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Re: :( i'm unhappy with my mpg [stinkpot1] by wvgasguy
Nov 18, 2006 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: stinkpot1 (Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm)

Well I'm working hard to keep 37 to 38 but no where near as low as you have experienced. I was concerned that I've lost about 2 mpg, but I can't say it's entirely the colder weather. I'm still able on short trips to get 41 to 43 in routes that I got that same mpg during the summer.
 
Tank mpg's may tell you what's happening with the weather, but to really test the car out to see if something's wrong, I'd reset the trip FE on an area where I know what I should be able to do and drive it with a warm engine. If you're still in the 39+ range then there is probably nothing wrong with the car.
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MPG Question and Issues by usnlt
Nov 19, 2006 (8:36 am)
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When I bought my Camry in July, the mpg started out around 35. It has now dropped to 27. Driving habits havent' changed. My trips average ~4 each way. My best fuel economy is when I've had to drive my car from Arlington to Norfolk, VA. The road trip portion averaged at ~40. Lately, the ICE has been coming on for no apparent reason. It starts with the car, instead of the battery. At stops, it turns on within 10 seconds. The indicator shows a full charge and I can't think of a reason it would be any less than any other hybrid driver. Thoughts? Anyone else experirence something similar where the ICE seems to be running the show?

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