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Replying to: faldoc (Sep 30, 2006 1:43 pm) i drove very carefully, trying to use the elec engine as much as possible. Outside Temp was around 45F, AC-OFF and the NAV was always on. btw, do you guys hear some noticeable noise when slowing down to like 5mph?? like a sound of an airplane except much quieter. i found it annoying. i just started doubting if my TCH is a defect. i live in washington state and i konw there's a 'lemon law' protecting consumers from buying defected cars. i'm wondering if i can return the car because i've only had it for 4 days now. 35MPG,,,is it normal? (i drove really carefully)
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) The low-level "airplane" whine you hear is probably the continuously variable transmission, and normal when coming to a stop. All cars and transmissions make some noise. Some of the hybrid's are just a little different. You'll soon accept them as normal, I hope. My wife was first troubled by the Smart Key system. It was too easy leave it on. But now she loves its convenience and loves the car. And your gas mileage will vary. While 35 mpg is at the lower end of what some people experience, it's not out of the normal range for some driving conditions. And 4 days and 150 miles is too short a test to draw conclusions about what you'll get over a reasonable period of time. Good luck. |
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Does the tread stretch when you over-inflate? I think not! The sidewalls stand taller, but the circumference of the tread, held in check by steel belts remains virtually unchanged. If the tire circumference is the same at different inflation pressures, then the speedometer/odometer reading will also remain unaffected by inflation changes. The car will ride higher at higher pressure, but the tread with the steel belts do not stretch, and the tires will still turn around exactly the same number of times per mile as before. This comment was made on the "other" forum but I cannot respond there so here it is. Interesting observation and it's the first time I've seen this point brought up concerning the effect of over and under inflation of the tires. The odometer is recording the number of revolutions and reguardless if a tire is flat or pumped tight it does have effectively the same circumference, thus the same distance is traveled as the tire makes one rotation reguardless of the pressure in the tire. The only way to really impact the odometer then is to change the circumference which indeed can be done with a fifferent size/profile tire. However as some has stated tread wear will still have a minimal impact. A tire that starts out life with 11/32 tread and wears to 3/32 will have some impact as it wears as the circumference will change. |
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) Wow, I think you're going to have to give it more time than that. If you have a NAV car did you reset the trip computer or is your 35 the average on the tank. Nobody yet it seems has had their first tank be their best. There is just too many variables affecting that first tank effeciency (tank fill, miles when you took delivery, but especially your learning curve which is probably the most significant issue) Practice will probably improve your average 2 to 3 mpg easily.
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) Regarding the "annoying" sounds. Did you test drive the car before buying it? Its normal for the car to whine a little as you decelerate. The car also makes all kinds of noises after you've turned it off, that's normal as well. Its also normal for you to experience a slight shudder upon accelerating. And the brakes are a little "high" because they help regenerate the battery - normal. You might want to give your self some more time to learn how to operate your TCH and to appreciate the special qualities of this car. Otherwise you are going to be mighty unhappy and I don't see how you can make a "lemon law" case based on behavior that is perfectly normal in this car. |
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) This is your first hybrid car, correct? My first hybrid was a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid. My first tank was 37 MPG. My lifetime average in that car ended up just over 48 MPG for 28,000 miles of driving it over two years. The first tank, even the first few tanks, are always low in your first hybrid, as you learn how to make use of the technology to maximize your MPG. Other factors are the length of your trips, the air in your tires, and as others have said, you most important factor is your driving style. If you are like most people, you rush around when driving, wanting to spend as little time as possible on the road. This bad habit will lead to lower than expected MPG in ANY car. And you cannot "lemon law" a car because of low mileage. If there is something wrong with the car which is CAUSING the low mileage, then Toyota has chances to fix it first. MY guess is that there is not a thing wrong with your car. I know how to drive a hybrid and my TCH lifetime MPG is about 36.8 MPG after about nine tanks. |
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) I'm sure you'll get better at driving it. Theres a whole thread on driving strategies which might help you. I for one, am happy to be getting 35mpg in a car this large. My wife get's about 12mpg in her SUV.  tom |
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My 2nd tank was manually calculated at 43.23MPG (AVG TANK 45.6MPG and NAV screen 43.6MPG) of a total 589 miles mixed driving (70%/30% city/hwy) without CC and A/C........ wow, what can I say the 2007 TCH is truly one awesome HYBRID vehicle!!!!!!!
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Replying to: agnosto (Nov 07, 2006 4:59 am) Woth the wait and worth the price for this outstanding car.
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I've been enjoying my TCH for almost 2 months now. As the weather got colder (Vancouver, BC) my gas consumption has increased. since I drive a lot of short trips, the ICE remains on most of the time. What I seem to notice is that pressing the "eco" button will sometimes cause the ICE to switch off. I'm not using the air conditioning, but I'm wondering if the heat setting without eco keeps the engine on more. Does anyone know (beyond what's in the manual) what the effect of the eco button really is?
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