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Replying to: jsaladin (Nov 03, 2006 1:18 pm) 37 MPG. It all depends on the type of commute you have, the air in your tires, and your driving style. Only getting 33 or 34 means there is some combination of those issues that is driving your MPG lower. The TCH is actually the best job Toyota (or anyone) has done so far in making a hybrid vehicle which is VERY VERY close in real-world averages to the EPA estimated mileage. With the combined EPA at 39 and the real-world average at 37, the TCH is only about 5% lower than EPA.
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 03, 2006 2:21 pm) My 4Runner is also off on the odometer but I have not verified by GPS just how much. I need to take it on a long trip (100+ miles) to feel comfortable stating any correction. Also jsaladin, note that the speedometer as well as the odometer is off and correcting one error only magnifies the other as they diverge. The speedo reads high and the odometer reads low. Only getting 33 or 34 means there is some combination of those issues that is driving your MPG lower. I truly believe I could get 35+ in any driving condition. But to do that I might have to tick off some other drivers. No one should make you speed, tail gate, move over or any take any other action as long as you're not a nusance or breaking the law. However many folks can't take the heat of having some blue hair flip them off. Actually, I now drive the speed limit and I try to not "block" traffic and stay considerate. Given all that I am currently averaging 39.22mpg over 15,000 miles. HOWEVER I don't use my vehicle for commuting and I don't live in a heavily congested area. But I have been in Columbus, Ohio / Charleston, WV / Nags Head and cities in between and have been able to get 39+. Experiment with your 4Runner if you want to see how driving habits affect FE. I was averaging 16.2mpg with a 2006 V8. Lately, by accelerating lightly, keeping the RPM's below 1500 where possible and just driving the limit I am able to see 19 to 22 mpg on local trips. However on the Interstate at 70 mph it drops into the mid 17's. Still I can easily see a 10 to 20% increase in FE easily by altering my driving style. Same for the TCH except in its case 10% increase is 3.5 mpg |
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Replying to: jsaladin (Nov 03, 2006 1:18 pm) If I drive like most people seem to, quickly racing ahead to see who'll be first to the next stoplight, my mileage suffers. But if I accelerate smoothly and moderately and anticipate traffic stops and slowdowns ahead, taking my foot off the accelerator early, my mileage meets the EPA rating. I suspect, though, that kind of driving might be a problem in some go-go cities. My dash mileage readouts have been very close to my calculations (1 mpg or less), within the margin I expect from so few fill-ups. So far, I'm quite pleased with the car. Other than the added initial price and possibly some added maintenance, the car performs just like any other. It's a small price, imo, to (ever so slightly) reduce consumption and our dependence on foreign sources for oil. |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Oct 30, 2006 5:18 am)  WillyBill 2007 TCH Mag Grey, Nav, Leather
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Replying to: faldoc (Sep 30, 2006 1:43 pm) i drove very carefully, trying to use the elec engine as much as possible. Outside Temp was around 45F, AC-OFF and the NAV was always on. btw, do you guys hear some noticeable noise when slowing down to like 5mph?? like a sound of an airplane except much quieter. i found it annoying. i just started doubting if my TCH is a defect. i live in washington state and i konw there's a 'lemon law' protecting consumers from buying defected cars. i'm wondering if i can return the car because i've only had it for 4 days now. 35MPG,,,is it normal? (i drove really carefully)
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) The low-level "airplane" whine you hear is probably the continuously variable transmission, and normal when coming to a stop. All cars and transmissions make some noise. Some of the hybrid's are just a little different. You'll soon accept them as normal, I hope. My wife was first troubled by the Smart Key system. It was too easy leave it on. But now she loves its convenience and loves the car. And your gas mileage will vary. While 35 mpg is at the lower end of what some people experience, it's not out of the normal range for some driving conditions. And 4 days and 150 miles is too short a test to draw conclusions about what you'll get over a reasonable period of time. Good luck. |
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Does the tread stretch when you over-inflate? I think not! The sidewalls stand taller, but the circumference of the tread, held in check by steel belts remains virtually unchanged. If the tire circumference is the same at different inflation pressures, then the speedometer/odometer reading will also remain unaffected by inflation changes. The car will ride higher at higher pressure, but the tread with the steel belts do not stretch, and the tires will still turn around exactly the same number of times per mile as before. This comment was made on the "other" forum but I cannot respond there so here it is. Interesting observation and it's the first time I've seen this point brought up concerning the effect of over and under inflation of the tires. The odometer is recording the number of revolutions and reguardless if a tire is flat or pumped tight it does have effectively the same circumference, thus the same distance is traveled as the tire makes one rotation reguardless of the pressure in the tire. The only way to really impact the odometer then is to change the circumference which indeed can be done with a fifferent size/profile tire. However as some has stated tread wear will still have a minimal impact. A tire that starts out life with 11/32 tread and wears to 3/32 will have some impact as it wears as the circumference will change. |
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) Wow, I think you're going to have to give it more time than that. If you have a NAV car did you reset the trip computer or is your 35 the average on the tank. Nobody yet it seems has had their first tank be their best. There is just too many variables affecting that first tank effeciency (tank fill, miles when you took delivery, but especially your learning curve which is probably the most significant issue) Practice will probably improve your average 2 to 3 mpg easily.
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Replying to: inincubus (Nov 05, 2006 1:14 am) Regarding the "annoying" sounds. Did you test drive the car before buying it? Its normal for the car to whine a little as you decelerate. The car also makes all kinds of noises after you've turned it off, that's normal as well. Its also normal for you to experience a slight shudder upon accelerating. And the brakes are a little "high" because they help regenerate the battery - normal. You might want to give your self some more time to learn how to operate your TCH and to appreciate the special qualities of this car. Otherwise you are going to be mighty unhappy and I don't see how you can make a "lemon law" case based on behavior that is perfectly normal in this car. |
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