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This may be worth repeating if I've already stated it elsewhere. For those of you manually calculating your FE and comparing it to the computer you're probably finding it coming up short. Mine is almost 1 mpg lower than what the computer shows (on lifetime average). My differecnce per tank has ranged from 3mpg low to 1 mpg higher. Granted with a high FE car like the TCH a tenth or so difference at fillup makes a huge difference so only by long term averaging can you see the real story. Others have verified this and I recently purchased a GPS system and compared my TCH to those readings. The speedometer registers about 2 to 3 mph high at 70. That's a decent margin of comfort for those of you still speeding  The odometer also has an error and it's in the opposite direction as the speedometer. The odometer registers 1.5% low. I checked this over a 197 mile drive against the GPS unit and it has been verified by others. This counts for a substantial, but not all, difference in the calculated compared to computer FE. After 13,700 miles I am averaging 39.6 mpg by computer indication, 38.6 mpg by manual calculation and 39.1 mpg if I factor in the corrected actual miles traveled. I'm pleased that the computer is a lot closer to "real" mpg than my manual calculation, but there is still some error. My only guess is that the measurement of fuel at high usage levels is pretty accurate but when running on the "glide" of FE60 a lot that the minor amounts of fuel are not measured as accurately. That's just a guess, I'm no expert, but I can't imagine any measurement system being able to have a closer accuracy when it has to measure from almost 0 fuel used for sustained periods of "E" and "FE60" times up to high fuel usage levels during the 10 to 20 mpg runs averaged in. |
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Just returned from a business/vacation trip to Auburn, AL from Kansas City. Total mileage was 1960 miles and overall MPG was 40.7... Very very pleased.. Goin south was 42-43 and the return trip was 38-39. Destinct headwind on the return trip. Two people and luggage. Ride was very acceptable and we wern't tired after driving for eight hours. Sad thing was we didn't see a single 2007 Camry let alone a Hybrid on the entire trip
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 15, 2006 3:36 pm)
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The other day, my wife was driving our Camry. Believe it or not, for one good stretch she averaged almost 60 mpg. For the day she avaeraged almost 50! Don't ask me how but she did. And she was going as fast as the traffic, too. Wow!!!! |
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Just back from a weekend trip to Las Vegas. Full tank in Tucson...A/C on ECO, 2 people, 1 small suitcase. From Tucson, it involves some freeway at 75mph, and some 2 lane rural at 65mph. Many up and down hills. 42.1MPG Tucson to Vegas. Drove about 60 miles in and around town in Vegas, and maintained the tank reading at 42.0mpg. Filled tank in vegas, before entering the Interatate for the return trip. The return had some significant head winds, and the tank average was 41.4 when we arrived in Tucson. On the way to vegas, crossing Hoover dam traffic came to a stop and we inched a foot at a time for 35 minites...took that long to cover 1 mile...all on EV!!! No reduction in mpg!!! SWEET. The driving range is incredible! I ALMOST wish it was a smaller tank so I can get the full tank average sooner. I know, I am twisted! I now have 4900 miles on the odo, and getting the maintenance required soon message. Will schedule an oil change next week at the dealer. Gotta love this car! |
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Finally cooled off enough for me to turn off the A/C (normally run on ECO). Several posters on the "other" forum state that A/C, even on ECO mode costs them 3 to 5 mpg. On my recent 125 mile trip where I have documented the trip mpg several times I was within the normal expectation for the trip with the A/C off and the temp at about 70. The same for the trip back and the temp had dropped to the mid 50's. Both trip mpg's were very close to my normal average for those same trips. (I really didn't expect to see 45+mpg on the trip from turning off my AC) I guess I'm curious if others really see a significant decrease in mpg from using their AC. My next experiment will be when it does drop to the 30's as it has also been suggested that I should expect a 10 to 15% drop this winter (another 3 to 5 mpg?).
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Oct 22, 2006 12:17 pm) g
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Replying to: grg (Oct 22, 2006 5:16 pm) If there is that much of an impact to them I would conclude it's because they run on mild battery boost more often and thus the ICE has to run to keep the battery charged for the AC. In the case of my hilly drives (and I still get 39.63 mpg overall)perhaps because my ICE is constantly on and off for up and down hills it keeps the battery charged incidentally with no incremental impact to overall FE? I say this because a lot of times while monitoring the NAV Energy screens I see the ICE charging the battery while there is excess hp being generated. I may be in a mode somewhere between FE of 40 to 60 but my battery is being charged while the ICE is still propelling the TCH. I will be curious to see how steady 30 degree temps affect the TCH milage from someone that gets good FE (like you). Keep me updated please. The same folks have suggested that all cars see a drop of 10 to 15% in the winter. On previous cars at 16 mpg I probably didn't notice it. However at 39+ I will notice a 10% drop easily. I'm still wondering though since a lot of my high FE is due to the battery will we see as much of a drop as a ICE only vehicle. The next few months will tell the story. |
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Does anyone know whether the A/C is OFF or ON when the ECO is ON (display shows ECO) and the A/C is OFF? Is it better to have the ECO mode OFF or ON for FE when the A/C is OFF??
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Replying to: agnosto (Oct 23, 2006 4:09 am) I too await the answer from someone more knowledgable. |
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