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Replying to: pgrokkos (Sep 29, 2006 5:32 am) I'll find that 36.5 is pretty easy (car driven "normal"), my wife gets about 37.5 and I have the average up to 39.5 (which means I average around 40.5) |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Sep 29, 2006 7:44 am) Unless there was a misunderstanding, I was told that there is no penalty because you overpaid early, that, so long as you had been taxed at least $2600 during the current tax year, you'd get the full tax credit. The hypothetical I posed was as follows: Suppose I had a $10,000 tax liability for the current tax year, but had $11,000 withheld by my employer. Normally, that would entail a refund of $1000. If I otherwise qualified for the hybrid tax credit to the tune of $2600, would my refund check now be $3600, to which he answered affirmatively. I followed that up by asking, "So, then, there is no penalty because you overpaid early?" Again, the answer was an affirmative. I've heard of a lot of misinformation being given out by the IRS, but, if what I heard was accurate, and I tend to believe it was, then we should feel relieved. I'm still hoping someone chimes in who has actually addressed the issue to a tax preparer who is competent on the matter. Anyway, I finally became a member of this site to post what I heard from the IRS. |
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Replying to: pgrokkos (Sep 29, 2006 5:32 am) In my case being careful but not really slow, and keeping the cruise control on at highway speeds has given me 40.6 mpg in my TCH. I drive a lot, mainly on the highway at 65 mph, so my mileage is higher just because of that fact, not my good vs bad habits. |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Sep 29, 2006 7:44 am) Although, to be honest, I wouldn't mind so much if it was a government conspiracy to cheat liberals out of their money by tricking them into buying hybrids since I am definitely not a liberal. 
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I have gotten over 40 actual mpg on the highway (60-70 mph) until I put on a bike rack and add a bike. Then the mileage drops to 32-33 actual mpg. This is based on several trips taken with and without the bike over the first 5,000 miles I have owned the Camry Hybrid. By the way, I have been keeping the record on each fill-up and I find that the car's computer is estimating mpg at a cumulative average approx 4% higher than the correct calculation shows. Any similar experiences?
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Replying to: oldengineer2 (Oct 01, 2006 10:08 am) Any similar experiences? There are some threads on the speedo and odometer errors. My current averages over 12,900 miles are: 38.78 mpg calculated by hand 39.36 mpg with a 1.5% correction due to odometer error 39.76 mpg calculated by TCH computer. There is a 2 to 3 mph error on the speedo at 70 mph but that does not impact the FE calculation. The odometer however is 1.5% off by comparisons by several people using their GPS. Taking that correction into consideration my manual calculation is closer to the Indicated than before but I am still off a few tenths. However the Indicated is probably closer to the actual than the manual calculation due to the odometer error. (BTY this "old engineer" will be 53 in dec) |
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Replying to: daddyizzle (Sep 21, 2006 5:18 pm) Through these forums, I was willing to chance it and mine arrived on June 3. Bear in mind, that I had the $2,600 tax credit as an incentive, but despite that, I probably still would have done it. I did love the Pilot! It was so roomy and literally could haul anything including full sheets of plywood and large furniture items. Once brought an entire outdoor patio set from Minnesota to Indiana which consisted of a six foot table, 4 rocking swivel chairs, umbrella and stand and still had room for a lot more. GONE are those days!!.. However, with the fuel economy and comfort and QUIET we receive with the TCH, we are extremely pleased and still glad we did it. We recently took a 5,000 mile trip out west and had no problems or issues with the TCH and did it on 135 gallons of gas or an avg. of 36.2 for the entire trip. Just thought you would like to know from a former PILOT owner. Nothing against the PILOT. It is a fine automobile. If I could of, I would have kept it. I may get another one someday but for now, we are saving gas, dollars and have a nice ride too. 
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Replying to: willybill (Oct 02, 2006 8:51 am) The only thing that I like in driving the Pilot again, is that i can put groceries in the very back, and they are air conditioned on the trip home! If you don't demand all that hauling room, go for the TCH... I have NOT regretted it! |
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I have a question about the calculated MPG per tank. On my first tank, on which was driven 515 miles, I refilled with 14.2 gallons. That's 36.3 MPG, which is what the TCH had estimated. Great. After applying a few more pulse and glides, and getting to 38.1 MPG on the TCH readout, I refilled at 519 miles, with 14.9 gallons. That is 34.8 MPG by my calculator. Is the TCH averaging each minute of driving to reach its estimate? Could that explain this discrepancy? Other questions: 1) How come it's so difficult to get good MPG in the first few minutes of driving? The ECO gauge always starts below 25 MPG for the first few minutes, and then creeps up. The longer the drive, the better the mileage is, almost uniformly. Is ignition responsible for this? 2) Does the refill light come on early in all Camrys? I let the fuel gauge get well past the E bar on the last tank, drove 50-60 miles after the pump light went on, and still didn't fill up with 15 gallons. I suppose I could cruise near 600 miles on a tank, but not if I had to look at the pump light for 150 of them. 3) I drive thirty miles to work, all but one of them highway, in flat eastern Michigan. Traffic is usually not too bad, so I almost always use cruise control, at 65-75 MPH. (Somehow cruise control seems more fuel conserving.) In the month I have driven the TCH, I routinely average 39-41 MPG going to work, and 35-37 going the same route home. The elevation difference between home and work is, at most, 50 feet. This makes no sense to me. What would explain this?
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Replying to: scsilv (Oct 04, 2006 4:22 pm) The ICE always kicks on after about 7 seconds. I understand this is to heat up the cat converter to give us the "clean green" machine effect. Clean air actually costs you FE. There are some threads explaining this in detail. Mine usually runs about 2 minutes. I live on a hill and it's disappointing to see less than 20 mog on the gage when I'm basically coasting down hill. However it icks up quickly (I seldom drive less than 5 miles) 2) Does the refill light come on early in all Camrys? I let the fuel gauge get well past the E bar on the last tank, drove 50-60 miles after the pump light went on, and still didn't fill up with 15 gallons. I suppose I could cruise near 600 miles on a tank, but not if I had to look at the pump light for 150 of them. All Camry's or TCH's? As for TCH's yes. More threads on this as well. Experience (from people that ran their tanks dry to prove it)shows that when the computer says the range is "0" miles, you will still have almost 3 gallons of gas. That's >100 miles after you hit empty. It takes a change of mind to quit filling at a quarter of a tank (since you now have about 250 miles left when it hits 1/4. 3) I drive thirty miles to work, all but one of them highway, in flat eastern Michigan. Traffic is usually not too bad, so I almost always use cruise control, at 65-75 MPH. (Somehow cruise control seems more fuel conserving.) In the month I have driven the TCH, I routinely average 39-41 MPG going to work, and 35-37 going the same route home. The elevation difference between home and work is, at most, 50 feet. This makes no sense to me. What would explain this? Even if it's 50 feet, it's uphill. I'd rather go up a steep hill quickly and coast a long way down as to go up a long gradual grade. On the WV interstates I have found what seems to be fairly flat ground and will be averaging an instant 45mpg. With just a slight increase in grade (or when the battery needs charged) I see the FE drop significantly. Fortunately for every up there is a down. Enjoy driving to work at 75 and driving home at 65 and you might be able to achieve the same results. |
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