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#286 of 299 Nail in the sidewall woes
Aug 13, 2011 (4:10 am)
I had my '09 Forester XT Limited at the dealership for some routine maintenance yesterday. They found a roofing nail in the interior sidewall of one of the tires. The dealer quoted me a price for 4 tires including alignment, and I opted to go home, research on tirerack instead. I ended up buying the Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum tires, which should be delivered Mon or Tues next week.
Dumb girl question 1: why would I need wheel alignment after replacing the tires if I don't need wheel alignment before replacing the tires? The service guy at the dealer was insistent that I compare prices including wheel alignment. I don't get it. Are they going to knock my alignment out while installing the tires?
Dumb girl question 2: my tire sensor light came on 2-3 weeks ago. I added air to all four tires (can't remember if one was significantly lower than the others, but I think so), so I assume that's when I picked up the nail. However, the light had not been on since. I drove home from the dealer, and then an hour later went back out to run a short distance errand. The tire light came on almost immediately. I stopped for air and the bad tire was at 10 psi. Sorry, but WTF? So now what do I do? Not drive at all for three days? Carry a portable air pump with me and only drive short distances if necessary? Can I put a can of fix a flat in there for the interim (I read that can damage the TPMS).
BTW, I hate hate hate the Geolanders, so although I am pissed about having to replace 4 tires at 21K miles, I'm not sad to see them go. That 's why I didn't even consider the option of shaving a tire down to match.
#287 of 299 Re: Nail in the sidewall woes [crashdavisfm]
Aug 13, 2011 (6:23 am)
I would ask the tire shop that installs the new Kumhos if they think an alignment is necessary.
Did the old tires wear evenly? If so I'd be tempted to pass.
#288 of 299 Re: Nail in the sidewall woes [crashdavisfm]
Aug 15, 2011 (8:25 am)
I think it is far preferable to do one's own research and make a decision based on that versus taking the recommendation of a shop on faith. I couldn't agree more regarding the Geolandars, plus the cost of a single tire (at least at my location) is north of $200, which is just insulting considering the quality of the tire. I'm facing a similar situation to yours due to a sidewall puncture.
As far as your questions go, you wouldn't "need" an alignment when replacing the tires. The benefit, if you did opt to have one, could be two fold: 1. you would ensure (presumably) the new tires would wear evenly, and 2. you would put some extra profit in the shop's pocket. As AJ suggested, unless you see uneven wear on the current tires or the car is not tracking true, I wouldn't bother with it.
The shop may (probably?) fiddled with the nail when they were inspecting, which may have caused the leak to worsen. Since you don't plan to keep the tires, I would just opt for the refill often option. Or, you could get a tire repair kit (pretty cheap, $5-10), pull the tire off and put a plug in it (absolutely an extremely short-term fix) and hope it holds for the day or two you need. if nothing else, you do have your spare on-hand should you need it. I'd recommend making sure it is at full pressure (60 psi) now, just in case.
#289 of 299 Re: Nail in the sidewall woes [xwesx]
Aug 15, 2011 (2:03 pm)
I've had several nail flats fixed by the plug method. I'd always been taught that the only proper way to fix a flat was to dismount the tire and patch the inside. Come to find out that "Discount Tires" aka "Americas Tires" has been fixing them with plugs for many years, and I've never had a problem with them so far.
I've been using the Kumho KR21 Solus for several years, they are great tires (quiet, good riding, long lasting) at about $60-$80 (price has really been going up on these).
#290 of 299 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited.
Feb 24, 2013 (9:55 am)
Hello Subaru experts.
I recently bought a 2013 Forester Limited with the 17" wheels. I have an extra set of OEM 16" tires and wheels from my 2002 Forester S with all season tires. Bolt pattern and offset match. So today I installed the old wheels + tires 215/60-16 instead of the 225/55-17 the 2013 came with (as those old tires still have a lot of life in them). I realize my odometer is about 2% off, and the TPMS light came on as the old tires had no TPMS in them. My question however is about the front brakes - they only have 3/8" or so clearance with the 16" wheels. Wheels rotate freely, and a test drive including highway showed no problem. Is there any scenario in which this tight clearance could be a problem?
#291 of 299 Re: 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited. [daniell]
Feb 24, 2013 (10:15 am)
I don't think so...the brakes move with the wheels.
You lose a tiny bit of ground clearance, right? I would just get taller tires when (if) you replace them.
#292 of 299 Re: 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited. [ateixeira]
Feb 24, 2013 (12:53 pm)
Yes, I am losing 0.5" of ground clearance. The plan is once I use these old tires to put snows on in the OEM size (for lower trims) 215/65-16.
#293 of 299 Re: 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited. [daniell]
Feb 24, 2013 (3:12 pm)
Meant 0.25", not 0.5"...
#294 of 299 Re: 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited. [daniell]
Feb 24, 2013 (4:38 pm)
Yeah, half inch diameter. So not a big loss in clearance.
#295 of 299 Re: 2002 Forester 16" wheels on 2013 Forester Limited. [daniell]
Feb 25, 2013 (9:42 am)
Daniel, those 16" rims work just fine, and the planned 16" replacement tire size is perfect going forward, so if you are fine with the smaller size for now, go with it. You will be accumulating miles a little faster than actual, though, which will (slightly) shorten your warranty period depending on how long (miles-wise) you use the tires.
I have a set of 16" steel rims off a 2007 Forester that I use on my 2010. I use those with my winter tires (same size as you noted - 215/65R16) and then use the 17" alloy wheels for the summer tires. No TPMS in the winter wheels, which is fine by me.