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#152 of 172 Re: Pros/Cons of removing clutch slave delay valve [jklee] by jemtec

Jun 12, 2011 (2:33 am)

Replying to: jklee (Jun 11, 2011 10:04 pm)

Hi,
I have heard of a "Hill Holder" clutch.. but that is a Subaru thing.
Hmmm..
Uphill starting is kind of nerve racking.
It's hard to not slip the clutch alittle due to the additional power the car needs to overcome the grade of the hill.
Honestly, I would suggest NOT doing alot of hill climbing from a stop while you are learning.
When you get good at general take offs, shifting, starting and stopping in typical traffic.. then come back to hill driving.
Its harder on your clutch.. no doubt about it doing hills.
Much like the Clutch slave Delay valve is in general use on a 2003-on Tiburon.
(why I suggest removing it so much).
As far as a clutch kit.. I would suggest a stock type kit from an aftermarket supplier as NEW.. not remanufactured.
If you plan on modding the car, maybe go with a step up with a slightly heavier clutch for more racing type applications.
Or nuts, and go full race (ceramic button type pressure plate and disk).
They tend to be harder to press in, but provide alot of clamping force for HP in excess of say, 500 or more.
You can buy new Hyundai Stock, but its going to cost more than just buying a OEM style aftermarket clutch.
Keep in mind.. if the clutch is going out, the flywheel might be toast too.
Its a dual mass flywheel, and I am not sure if there are any aftermarket companies who make them. (Havent checked recently) but typically, you have to buy them from Hyundai.
Luk makes good clutches. Might look into one from them.
As far as cost, they vary.. many cost 150.00 and up for a complete kit.. (disk, pressure plate, throwout bearing, alignment tool sometimes, and occasionally a pilot bearing/bushing.
You might be able to get a cheaper kit.. but be careful and do research on the company if you are looking to save money.
When it comes to clutches, I like to buy good quality components.
I hate redoing my work prematurely.
Otherwise, good luck!
 

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#153 of 172 Re: Fixing your premature clutch failures..2003- and on Tiburon 4 and 6 Cyl. [schultzi3] by boogietib

Aug 05, 2011 (8:49 am)

Replying to: schultzi3 (Apr 20, 2009 2:39 pm)

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#154 of 172 Re: STAY AWAY from this car! [xeonrex] by anthony91

Nov 20, 2011 (11:55 am)

Replying to: xeonrex (Oct 14, 2007 5:20 pm)

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#155 of 172 Clutch Problems by nicolita

Jan 15, 2012 (2:15 pm)

I have an 05 tiburon se with right under 50,000 miles. I purchased the car in april 2011 with about 41,000 miles and didn't have any problems with it until this month. One day I got in it and noticed the clutch felt very light, now I'm no expert at driving stick as I just learned when I got the car, but I never rode the clutch or grinded gears so I'm wondering if the previous owner drove it rough or if Hyundai is just that cheap with their parts. I was told if it wasn't a hydraulic clutch it could be adjusted and that might fix the problem but I'm pretty sure it is hydraulic so does that mean I just have to replace it, and if so how much am I looking at spending?

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#156 of 172 '08 Tiburon V6-Bad Clutch by georgia_chelle

Mar 17, 2012 (9:07 pm)

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#157 of 172 Re: '08 Tiburon V6-Bad Clutch [georgia_chelle] by nicolita

Apr 09, 2012 (2:57 pm)

Replying to: georgia_chelle (Mar 17, 2012 9:07 pm)

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• jemtec (Apr 09, 2012 11:45 pm)

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#158 of 172 Re: '08 Tiburon V6-Bad Clutch [nicolita] by jemtec

Apr 09, 2012 (11:45 pm)

Replying to: nicolita (Apr 09, 2012 2:57 pm)

Read through these posts.
Its not the build quality of the clutch in most circumstances.
It is a design addition in the clutch slave cylinder causing premature clutch failure.
I have made a dozen posts over the last several years about it.
It is mainly, caused by a delay valve and spring located in the clutch slave cylinder.
It makes a pro driver feel like a newbie, and a beginner feel like a pro.
It artifically slips the clutch, which makes it smoother to shift, but it causes a great deal of wear.
Additionally, it makes the clutch feel "unnatural", meaning it does not engage immediately after you release the clutch, and it slips too long when you depress it during shifts.
There was NO difference in the part #s between all 2003-2008 Tiburons.
Other than the engine used. 2.0 4 cyl, or 2.7 6 cyl.
I have a 2004 2.0.. I removed the delay valve at 16K miles and it now has 100K on it.
Same clutch.
So it isnt a quality thing.. its a design execution failure.
REMOVE the clutch slave cylinder spring and the little valve along with it, and your clutch issues will go away.
Provided your clutch isn't already damaged beyond repair.
And by all means.. if you replace the clutch... REMOVE THE CLUTCH SLAVE CYLINDER DELAY VALVE AND SPRING!!!! (The only 2 parts contained within it).
LOL
Hope this helps.

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#159 of 172 Re: STAY AWAY from this car! [xeonrex] by cynl8doug

Jun 02, 2012 (10:43 am)

Replying to: xeonrex (Oct 14, 2007 5:20 pm)

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#160 of 172 might purchase 2006 tiburon gs 2.0L by pokermanjosh

Jun 17, 2012 (9:04 pm)

I have researched alot about the clutch problems. But others say they don't have any problems. Ill be learning to drive manual for the first time and the sales rep at this dealership in Indy says he'll teach me. But anyways i read in this forum about taking out the delay valve as to not burn out the clutch and flywheel. But this is my question. Would it be better to leave the delay valve in and learn how to drive manual or take it out and then learn to drive? As i didn't see this brought up yet by anyone. Also i was thinking, did Hyundai do this to purposely make the clutch slip as make it easier to learn to drive manual on first and then take out the delay valve so not to hurt the transmission? I need to ask to see if they can inspect the clutch, flywheel. Also which is better the (steel clutch master) or (solid flywheel and clutch by valeo dial-a-clutch.com) or (clutch master FX100 stg 1 and Fidanza lightweight flywheel.) One more question should i go ahead and replace or see if i can exchange the clutch and flywheel for one of the better ones i mentioned above? or should i just go ahead and get rid of the dual-mast flywheel? Because someone said the dual-mast flywheel is the problem, so what do i replace the dual-mast flywheel with? And im trying to think of what is the best combination to do as this is my first manual? So first i have to learn to drive on this stock manual and then after i become great at it what should i do?

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#161 of 172 Re: might purchase 2006 tiburon gs 2.0L [pokermanjosh] by jemtec

Jun 17, 2012 (9:33 pm)

Replying to: pokermanjosh (Jun 17, 2012 9:04 pm)

Yes,
Whatever you do.. REMOVE the clutch delay valve and spring.
The clutch feels like any other manufacturers clutch, and you can learn the right way to use one.
I have made quite a few posts on here, and I know from personal experience, removing the clutch slave delay valve and spring does nothing but improve clutch feel, life,reliability and hassle/cost of early clutch failure.
I wouldn't endorse such a claim had I not done it myself.
Best of luck!