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Re: Does anyone own 06 Legacy LL Bean Sedan? [snowbelter] by zsiberian
May 19, 2006 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: snowbelter (May 18, 2006 5:31 pm)

Interesting.
Can you tell me what was the 04 model running for at the time $? Was it always in the 30-ies? I don't see very many people buying this particular 06 sedan, could not find one in stock at any of the local dealerships, and I'm suspecting the prices (just like VW Phaeton) is to blame and it may be phased out.
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Re: Does anyone own 06 Legacy LL Bean Sedan? [zsiberian] by snowbelter
May 19, 2006 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: zsiberian (May 19, 2006 6:38 am)

Pricing has been a MRSP of a few hundred dollars less than the equivalent wagon model. My local dealer keeps one or two around and trades with other dealers on color choices. Its no Phaeton. Think of sedan and wagon version of a Passat. Only with Subaru, most OB buyers pick the wagon.
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Re: Does anyone own 06 Legacy LL Bean Sedan? [zsiberian] by ateixeira
May 19, 2006 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: zsiberian (May 18, 2006 12:28 pm)

My point was (and still is) that you will find very few OB sedan owners, they represent a small minority.
 
-juice
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Trade in '05 Outback XT for '06 RAV4? by helvetico
Jun 19, 2006 (7:07 am)
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First off, I should say that I live in Switzerland, where gas runs over $5 a gallon. I had the XT shipped over from the States because it's unavailable here; I can probably sell it for what I paid for it.
 
Why do I want to sell it? The mileage just isn't good enough. The diesel RAV4 available here in Europe gets close to 40 mpg on the highway. It also has vehicle stability control, which the XT lacks. The one big drawback is the presence of only two front airbags in the RAV4; the Outback has six, including front side and side curtain airbags.
 
My concerns are twofold:
 
1. Is the RAV4 as safe as the Outback? (Does the VDC compensate for fewer airbags?)
 
2. Will the RAV4 handle snow as well?
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Re: Trade in '05 Outback XT for '06 RAV4? [helvetico] by rsholland
Jun 19, 2006 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: helvetico (Jun 19, 2006 7:07 am)

1. Is the RAV4 as safe as the Outback? (Does the VDC compensate for fewer airbags?)
 
That's an apples and oranges situation. The VDC may help keep you from having an accident, but if you should get in one, the more airbags the better. Also, keep in mind that if someone hits you, VDC likely won't help you, but airbags will.
  
2. Will the RAV4 handle snow as well?
 
Well, the new RAV4 has an on-demand system, which isn't as good as a full-time system like what Subaru offers. Having said that, I'm sure the RAV4 will get you through the snow just fine.
 
Bob
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Re: Trade in '05 Outback XT for '06 RAV4? [helvetico] by ateixeira
Jun 19, 2006 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: helvetico (Jun 19, 2006 7:07 am)

The euro RAV4 is smaller than ours. The USA only gets a longer-wheelbase model, plus the euro one has less content (hence just 2 air bags).
 
-juice
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subary fuel efficiency by friendly_jacek
Jun 25, 2006 (7:31 pm)
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Anybody knows that subarus are not exactly gas conserving cars. Looks like someone didn't do research.
Go ahead and import US RAV4 as they have side airbag option.
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Re: subary fuel efficiency [friendly_jacek] by helvetico
Jun 25, 2006 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: friendly_jacek (Jun 25, 2006 7:31 pm)

Um, looks like I DID do my research: I was well aware of the Subaru's mileage before buying it. American car magazines seem to think they're among the most fuel-efficient AWD's, with the Forester, which might hit 29 mpg hwy on a good day, coming out on top. I get 26 mpg hwy on a good day in my Turbo.
 
Two things account for my desire to switch: one, I'm driving a lot farther than I thought I would, and thus consuming more gas. Two, the new RAV4 came out.
 
Incidentally, I would not be able to import the model I want, since diesels are unavailable in the US. The diesel RAV4 gets about 40 mpg hwy. Switching to a gas-burning RAV4 to get better mileage makes no sense, as the advantage (3 mpg hwy) is too small to compensate for the hassle of buying one car and selling another.
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Re: subary fuel efficiency [friendly_jacek] by ateixeira
Jun 26, 2006 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: friendly_jacek (Jun 25, 2006 7:31 pm)

Within their classes, they are efficient.
 
The Forester's 23/28 actually ties the RAV4 automatic AWD model for the most fuel-efficient AWD SUV.
 
The 03-05 Forester actually held the crown, with 23/30 EPA mpg. Only FWD RAV4s could match that.
 
-juice

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