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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Car Buying, Sedan, Wagon
#77 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [evergreen]
Dec 03, 2006 (9:45 pm)
The relevance of Fitzgerald's numbers depends on what's happening in *your* market.
Here in New York, there are tons of competing Subaru dealers, but there are also tons of people buying Subarus (and I suspect the same is true in Denver). The dealers are much firmer on price -- they can afford to send you on down the road and wait for the next customer.
Dealers here simply won't sell you a car for the prices the MD dealers allegedly do. If Fitzgerald is actually selling brand-new cars for invoice minus holdback and then some and incentives, I applaud them, but it ain't happening in my neck of the woods.
#78 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [smittynyc]
Dec 04, 2006 (8:52 am)
Your "allegedly" comment cracked me up.
We bought our '02 Legacy there, the prices are for real. They do have a $99 processing fee they disclose up front. The process was quite painless, so I will very likely go there again. My family has bought 4 cars from that dealership.
#79 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [ateixeira]
Dec 04, 2006 (9:42 am)
I didn't mean allegedly in a pejorative sense. It just seems to me that not as many Edmunds posters actually buy from Fitzgerald as quote their prices.
Any thoughts as to why the Maryland market is so competitive to the consumer's benefit? The weather, maybe? Most of the year you're fine w/o AWD, but then you get those 4-5 ice/snow storms? Are domestics more of a presence there than in the NYC area? I can literally go weeks between sightings of late-model American makes here(excluding SUVs).
I mean, it's not just Fitzgerald -- there are several other MD Subaru dealers who have similar pricing.
I actually did shop Fitz for a 2006 Sienna/2007 Legacy, but I figured that between the time spent and gas and probably a hotel room and everything else, it was too much trouble to save (net) two or three hundred bucks.
#80 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [smittynyc]
Dec 04, 2006 (10:13 am)
We bought 4 Subies from Fitzgeralds. 2 from their Rockville store and 2 from their Gaithersburg store.
#81 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [smittynyc]
Dec 04, 2006 (11:04 am)
I am inclined to think that, in terms of an unwillingness to negotiate prices, my "tail" of the woods is likely the least consumer-friendly place on the continent. That is fine by me though, because if I cannot find a decent price on a car here, I jump at the opportunity to pay $500 for a flight to the lower 48, pay $3000-4000 less for the same car there, then have an immensly enjoyable time spending another $5-600 driving it back up the highway.
I will let other folks line the local dealers' pockets on new car sales. I am sure that I will give them more than my share when it comes to maintenance.
#82 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [xwesx]
Dec 04, 2006 (11:24 am)
It is wise to drive a little, to save a lot.
Two houses, both costing $250,000. One, in the city, has 1500 sq ft. The other, eight miles out, has 2100 sq. ft. and a bigger lot. Which one is the bargain? Well, it depends on if you have kids or not, hate the city congestion or not. Value shopping and night life or not.
In California, the Tri-State area of NJ/NY/CN, or similar metroplex areas, it always pays to search dealers in at least a 100 mile radius. Is there anyone who feels two hours of driving isn't worth saving $500+ on a car?
I usually save, at the minimum, a whole year's insurance premium doing that.
#83 of 126 Re: 2007 Subaru Outback 2.5i Wagon [smittynyc]
Dec 04, 2006 (12:23 pm)
Not sure why the prices in this region are so competitive. I know there are something like 7 dealerships near my zip code, and that can't hurt.
Also, we have dealers in MD, but I'm just a couple of exist from VA, so those compete for my business, too.
Fitz is not necessarily the cheapest, either, but they are straight up and honest, and the process is painless. I'd rather give them my repeat business vs. going somewhere else and not knowing what to expect, and maybe saving a few bucks.
Plus, they know me now so my salesman will toss me keys to anything I test drive without any questions.
#84 of 126 Upgrade
Dec 04, 2006 (3:51 pm)
5 months ago I bought a 2006 OB 2.5i. Things have been good for me lately, so I'm thinking of an upgrade to an XT, 'cause mainly I feel the need for power. Other than the normal whatever percent I loss because the depreciation hit, do you know if I have to pay again taxes on the new vehicle (at least 2K in my case)? Nothing I can recoup?
#85 of 126 Re: Upgrade [nickel]
Dec 04, 2006 (4:08 pm)
Well, since you didn't fill out your profile here, no one can know what State you live in.
Some States, live Nevada, charge you only the difference in price between what you paid for the car you are selling, and the new one you are buying. Others, like California, charge you the full amount, even on the replacement vehicle......
#86 of 126 Re: Upgrade [nickel]
Dec 05, 2006 (7:45 am)
Sorry, I live in Minnesota, home of snow, but waiting for it this year.