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Subaru Outback/Legacy Buying Advice

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Re: ah ha [ateixeira] by kens
Nov 22, 2006 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 22, 2006 9:41 am)

While I'm not sure the AWD system (planteary gearset and clutch pack) is the same, the LGT/OBXT/VDC automatics probably use the Jatco JR507E rear-wheel drive transmission for medium and large vehciles found on Nissan makes like the G35 and Z.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jatco_transmissions
 
Ken
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wikipedia by paisan
Nov 23, 2006 (12:31 am)
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I've found a lot of mis-information in there...
 
But that is probable. The SVX had the same basic trans design as the pathfinder in the day.
 
-mike
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Re: tires [cptplt] by ateixeira
Nov 25, 2006 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: cptplt (Nov 22, 2006 9:56 am)

what happens if you put Legacy sized tires on an OB??
 
If you're mike (paisan), you win a trophy for an autocross competition. Seriously. That's exactly what he did.
 
They handle well with those tires. I'd just get a Legacy to begin with, though. They're lighter.
 
-juice
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Re: tires [ateixeira] by cptplt
Nov 25, 2006 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 25, 2006 6:40 am)

but I want VDC in a wagon!
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Re: tires [cptplt] by mystro
Nov 25, 2006 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: cptplt (Nov 25, 2006 6:57 am)

Yes,on non-turbo 2.5's,no XT and no LLB just a plain OB or Legacy. Hell,Honda and Toy put it on almost everything same with Ford and Chevy.
 
Me thinks SOA is playing the subbie loyalty card to long and it'll bite them if it hasn't already. If VCD is not an option on all OB's and Leg in 08..big trouble at SOA.
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Re: tires [ateixeira] by paisan
Nov 26, 2006 (1:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 25, 2006 6:40 am)

Yup, I ran Hypov's OB with R-compounds and did quite well, automatic and all
 
-mike
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Re: tires [mystro] by ateixeira
Nov 27, 2006 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: mystro (Nov 25, 2006 9:03 am)

It will happen. Subaru is trying to figure out how to do VDC cheaply. Not all stability control/AWD systems are created the same, and they don't want to just slap a cheap brake-based system that doesn't integrate the AWD.
 
Having said that, let's get with the program, Subaru, you just might be the last one to make it standard on all your models.
 
-juice
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Re: tires [ateixeira] by kens
Nov 27, 2006 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 27, 2006 8:19 am)

Absolutely. Subaru has no option but to offer stability control given it's recent spotlight in vehicle safety. While they were ahead in offering AWD in their cars, Subaru has missed the recent wave of VDC/ESC/ESP equipped cars. I was at the SF Auto Show yesterday and it was disheartening to see that even the most inexpensive of car makes offered it.
 
I wonder if the tuning with AWD is what is causing the hold up. I'm even wondering if the fact that the manual transmission Continous AWD is what is complicating matters since it's the one system that really can't be controlled by a TCU.
 
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Subaru's engineering team meetings!
 
Ken
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VDC by paisan
Nov 27, 2006 (8:52 am)
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Is offered across the board on the Armada standard. I guess they just build it into the price which isn't cheap even on the "base" model. I have to say the VDC is great in it's implementation on the Armada, not too intrusive unless I'm in 2wd and really slam on the gas with my crappy tires.
 
Last winter during the 48hrs of Tri-state, Frank a friend of mine was driving the Armada with a whole host of about 20+ subies behind us through icy mountain roads. The only folks who were able to keep up were 2 of the STis and I was watching the slip light of the VDC flickering as he carved through the icy turns, you wouldn't have known the VDC was active other than the flicker of the light.
 
-mike

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