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Replying to: jbollt (May 31, 2007 7:54 am) Well, sort of. The EPA makes the testing rules, but most vehicles are actually tested by the manufacturers, not the EPA.
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Replying to: stevedebi (May 31, 2007 11:44 am) Glad the tests were re-tooled though !! |
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My 06 AWD Hihy with 10,000 miles is getting very good fuel economy, 37 miles drive to work. My scangauge reading was 5 MPG less than the actual MPG. I thought the hybrid system is not worth it, until I cross checked with actual hand calculation at the pump. Now that I know the actual fuel mileage, I am very happy. No other AWD SUV can touch that, except Ford escape but the escape is a 4 cylinder, less powerfull, slower, noisier and rougher. Regarding the scangauge, it needs to be cross checked against actual MPG. Since it is a little bit off. It reads 2 MPG more than the actual MPG in my Subaru outback. It is also 1 MPG less than the comptuter read out in my Sienna. |
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2006/6964A HH 4WD-i V6. Bought June 1, 2006 Odometer now has 10595 miles. According to my glovebox log book, we've put in 448.5 gals into the SUV. Calculates out to 23.6 mpg. Mostly rural city type driving. Sticker numbers in very large eye-catching font says 31 city and 27 highway. I'm a little disappointed in the results. |
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"Mostly rural city type driving. " Huh? That is two different driving cycles. Have you attempted the various gas saving techniques?
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 02, 2007 12:54 pm) Many of the gas saving techniques are practiced as much as possible. I'm under the belief that "conservative" driving should be all that is needed to attain "near" EPA specs. Please don't be offended, but anything more then that, seems to me, like needing to jump through hoops. I'd rather just relax and drive.
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2007 HH Limited 4WDi. Took delivery on March 17, 2007. Currently at 15,600 miles. Have been getting 25-26 MPG. Nearly all miles are in the left lane on I-95 between Washington DC and Richmond at 80 MPH. No issues, love the car.
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Replying to: abeer (Jul 02, 2007 4:02 pm) That is most likely your problem. Hybrids are very sensitive to short trips - the engine has to warm up the catalytic converter, and thus it runs all the time. For longer trips the hybrid components have more effect. |
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Replying to: rodonnell (Jul 09, 2007 11:58 am) I owned a 2003 Honda CR-V; 26 MPG  80 MPH is exactly what I always registered. I think the hybrid is not as useful at highway speeds...
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 10, 2007 10:54 am) The 2007 HH is a mid-size V6 SUV that weighs 4200+ lbs. It has emission rating of SULEV II or EPA grades or 7,9 (higher is better). It can haul 3500-lbs. For the speedster-owners, it can accelerate like a bat out of <censored>. Yet, this owner can get 26-MPG. The Honda CRV is a small SUV using a 4-cyclinder small engine. The 2007 version scored a 6,7 respectively from EPA. Not bad for the CRV but still 1,2 points less than the HH, a gas-electric vehicle in a larger class. So in terms of ability to do more work, carry more load, cargo volume, MPG and emission, the gas-electric is still a better engine choice. As for hybrids being not as useful at highway speeds, that is not always true. I see this generalized claim a lot but no one has stated clearly what is considered useful in contrast? Even in the first generation HH, the V6 2006 HH, the battery turns ON to assist in keeping our HH cruising along at 65-MPH. When it does that, the mileage (intermediate) shoots up anywhere from 35-45 MPG. If there is a head wind, it may drop to 30-MPG. If there is a tail wind, it will reach 45-MPG easily. This is most apparent whenever we drive the flat stretch of HWY 101 south of San Jose all the way to San Juan Bautista, about 30+ miles. If I only commute on that stretch everyday, I am sure to easily get 30-MPG average on our HH. To be more specific, I can drive at speed limit from San Jose to Watsonville via 85->101->129 and back and get an intermediate MPG of 26. If I am the only person in the car, no gear and I drive 60 on 85+101 and 55 on 129, then I have been able to get 27+ MPG. As of today, July 2007  , there is NO OTHER V6 SUV in the mid-size class, with the same engine performance characteristics, that can match that MPG number, have the same emission rating, driving those very same freeways. With the 2008 HH coming this fall, the ECON mode gets the MPG up to 28-MPG. I will love to see FORD, GM, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai or whoever put out a car in that same class, with the same performance, getting the same 28-MPG and the same SULEV II rating. Gas-Electric is just one engine choice, like diesel, diesel-electric, gas or biodiesel. They each have advantages and disadvantages. For a car as big as the HH, until someone can point to a specific example, citing specific test results, the only cleaner and more efficient engine choice currently in production is gas-electric.
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