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Hyundai Azera, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#27 of 46 True Cost to Own
May 23, 2006 (2:18 pm)
IMHO, same lesson learned from lots of other products: don't be fooled by the lower entry price. If the TCO is in the same ball park, choice is obvious. Hyundai might be decent and will continue improve, but they are not up to Toyota yet (brand name, quality, experience), not yet for a long shot.
#29 of 46 Much has been made
May 24, 2006 (6:55 am)
of Toyota's new 6-sp automatic transaxle problem. For people contemplating any Hyundai product, keep in mind that Hyundai's had a few problems with the Mitsubishi-derived 5-sp automatic transaxle which the new "2006.5" KIA Optima, 2006 Hyundai Sonata V6, the former Hyundai XG-3x0 series, and the new Hyundai Azera use, too*. Hyundai has replaced affected transaxles under warranty, but only with rebuilt units, availability permitting. Hyundai does not make a payment while the car is tied up or offer a new replacement car option, either. With Hyundai, there's no over and above the warranty stipulations. I'm not saying Hyundai cars are a poor consideration. I drive a 2003 Sonata and I'm not complaining because I knew the score full well when I purchased three and a half years ago. But I am saying they're no Toyota in terms of customer service and the only way to recoup a Hyundai's full value is to drive it out of the vehicle. After about six years, Hyundais are within spitting distance of other competitive model make's resale value. They're not a good deal for frequent traders looking to move to a different make.
*Enough problems that Hyundai stopped permitting dealership service personnel from undertaking "deep repairs" under warranty of Hyundai automatic transaxles on-site in a TSB over two years ago. All failed automatic transaxles are to be shipped back to a Hyundai transaxle rebuild center in Illinois in the replacement transaxle's shipping container, with fluid (apparently Hyundai checks for chemical tracers to verify that only the required SP-III ATF fluid has been used for service fill), for tear-down, inspection, and rebuild, now.
#30 of 46 Signed for Azera and a Camry
Jun 01, 2006 (2:42 pm)
Yes, I signed for both. Here is my story.
I have had two V6 Camry LE's and was ready to trade. Drove the Azera and was very impressed. The options and luxury was great. The the "experts" do not agree, I see this car placed between the higher end Camry and Avalon. Anyway. took it overnight then went in to do a deal. They honored the lease deal ($2,800 factory help, great money factor, 52% residual at 27 months). Then got a real nice trade value to use as more down payment. While with finance guy, the monthly payment moved by $64. After 45 min, figured out they forgot $600 fee and used 10k miles vs 12k. I walked. By the way, I never lease but did so only to lock in residual in case Hyundai was not all it was cracked up to be.
Went to Camry dealer... long story, many test drives later ready to get 4cyl XLE. No acceptable color within 500 miles. Talked and found V6 XLE with extra options, bought for maybe $1500 off MSRP (trade makes it fuzzy). 150 miles later and love the car.
Azera is a luxury car. Camry is not, but rides tighter and feels really nice.
#35 of 46 Let me have some reasons to buy Azera
Jul 15, 2006 (3:35 pm)
My wife and I drove Camry today.
While I still want to go with Azera, my wife prefer Camry.
We gonna buy either Azera or Camry in a few weeks.
Let me some reason to buy Azera rather than Camry to persuade my wife.
#36 of 46 Re: Let me have some reasons to buy Azera [m3ls]
Jul 15, 2006 (4:32 pm)
We looked at both vehicles before buying the Azera. Let me share some of our observations:
Looking to spend about the same $$:
1. We could only buy a Camry LE with a 4 cylinder engine, and I believe the Traction Control and ABS were an option. The side air bags were also an upgrade ( I think). Bottom line, got a whole lot more content with Azera for same dollars.
2, Toyota dealer would not budge on price, Azera had rebate that helped.
3. Got a much better sound system and Leather interior in the Azera Limited, vs. the LE.
4. Longer warranty
5. The Azera is less common, you don't see them all the time like the Camry
6. The Azera has more "style" to my eye.
7. JD Power says the Azera has best initial quality for Large sedan new vehicle.
8. Camry has had some component reliability issues in the latest model.
9. If the Azera works out like I think it will, it will be desirable and will hold its value over time, though Toyota does have the edge here.
10. Tell your wife that you really are getting a car like the Avalon, for the price of a Camry.
11. Check out the Consumer Reports comparison. In large cars, the Azera is ranked right under the Avalon. Won't be "recommended" until there is a track record.
Good luck, the Azera has proven very enjoyable so far.