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#5615 of 5646 Toyota Warranty
Apr 11, 2012 (7:17 pm)
I have a 2007 Camry V-6 which has a check engine light with code 2195 and 138 Fuel air ratio and oxygen sensors. Toyota says to fix it they need to apply the TSB which includes changing the exhaust manifold. ( $18,000)
They claim this is not warranty work under the power train warrany only the 3 yr -36,000 bumper to bumper/
I have an extended power train warranty which clearly states what is covered under the warranty and it list the exhaust manifold.
How can Toyota say this would not be covered?
Thanks for your insight, chuck
#5616 of 5646 Re: Toyota Warranty [chuck28]
Apr 12, 2012 (7:49 pm)
Ooops! cost is $1,800 not $18,000 my bad,
#5617 of 5646 Re: Toyota Warranty [chuck28]
Apr 12, 2012 (8:22 pm)
Is your extended powertrain warranty through Toyota? If it is; you need to work this out with Toyota's warranty department. Explain to them that the exhaust manifold is listed under the items covered by that warranty; and see what they say. If it is through another company; you need to discuss this with that company.
#5618 of 5646 Re: Toyota Warranty [zaken1]
Apr 13, 2012 (3:05 am)
Hi Zaken, I did just as you mentioned. Talked with Toyota Extended care and they confirmed the manifold is covered. They said the car needs to go back to the dealership so they can start a new R.O and get the milage off the car. My wife will be taking the car there this morning. The deaership reminded me that I will still have to replace the sensors. I' m hoping they don't try to double charge me on the labor for the sensor replacement seeing that the manifold labor includes removing the sensor.
I will keep you informed, thanks chuck
#5619 of 5646 Re: Toyota Warranty [zaken1]
Apr 13, 2012 (10:40 pm)
Hi Zaken, here is the latest, had my wife take car to Toyota. Service manager said he had to fight with Toyota extended care to warranty the manifold. He then told me the only way they would agree to warranty it is for me to have all the sensors changed which includes 3 sensors even though only 2 of the codes were coming up for Bank 1 sensor 1 and 2. The other one was Bank 2 sensor 1 Fuel ratio. I questioned him on it and he said this is the agreement Toyota told him. Cost for parts and labor $675 minus 10% coupon. Manifold no charge. I told him to go ahead with the job seeing that I now have a 1 year 12,000 miles warranty on the new parts. He tried to discourage me calling back Toyota extended care saying he already did everything he could. I called them anyhow and they had a different story saying they recommended only changing out the sensors that applied to the specific manifold even though they can't cover the sensors under the power -train warranty. Called back dealership and he said "that's not what they told me" Someone is lying and I think it's the serve manager.
I tried to negotiate not to change the Bank 2 sensor which would save me $212.00 and he said he had to check to see if they started taking it out yet. He then said mechanic said sensor looked week and he wouldn't be able to warranty the work if I chose not replace it. For the peace of mind I agreed to have him replace it.
All and all I'm pleased to have the job done to Toyata's specification. I have all the updated parts including the redesign manifold. This would have been close to a $1800 job with out the warranty of the manifold.
Rock auto also agreed to give me credit on the sensors I bought from them. Very nice of them.
I have all the original sensors. As I inspect the Rock auto's sensors they say Denso on them but not Toyota. The old Toyota's sensors say Toyota with there part number on them. I did notice that there was a design difference in the two oxygen sensors. Toyota's had a few small holes in it and the Rock auto had multiple holes up and down. I can't say each sensor is exactly the same/ The fuel ratio's were closer in looks.
This has been a long journey and I hope it's over. I still hate dealing with the dealerships but seeing that they covered more than half the job I'm happy.
Thanks for all your insight and I look forward to continue to gain more wisdom from you in the days to come. You have been a great help! Chuck
#5620 of 5646 Update after new manifold and sensors
Apr 18, 2012 (7:09 pm)
2007 Camry V-6
Car is running better than ever. Check engine lights gone after TSB performed. (replaced manifold and fuel-air sensors).
Car is shifting better and gas milage is better. It's a joy to drive agian.
Thanks again for the knowledge we learn on this site.
#5621 of 5646 Re: 2007 camry se v6 intermittent check engine/vsc/track [mac666]
Jun 29, 2012 (2:33 am)
have you found a solution to your intermittent problem u0101
#5623 of 5646 Re: abs and brake light [msanchez103]
Aug 17, 2012 (8:30 am)
Were you able to get it fixed , i have the same issue with my car
#5624 of 5646 2007 Toyota Camry good so far
Aug 30, 2012 (4:53 pm)
I have 74k on my 07 camry I4 with moonroof package . Oil changed every 5k. Had 1 failure. the car seat motor stopped working at 34k miles. fixed under warranty.At 73k needed new rotors and brakes. i have a tow hitch and it has towed some heavy weights a few times and around 1000 pounds for extended time.
Cannot believe the brakes lasted so long. Mine i was the first batch after the hesitation fix , i made sure of it in 07 . great car and many more miles to go.It has become the older vehicle in the family and sees limited usage as my winter commuter when its too cold for the motorcycle. But 4 yrs it carried our family everyday and was our primary vehicle.