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#5117 of 5628 Re: Toyota does not stand behind their product [djm2]
Mar 17, 2010 (9:20 pm)
We own a 07 XLE 4 cylinder and my wife is the primary driver. We both really love are Camry. It has a little over 50K, to which we only put 12K on, since we bought it used in Oct. 2008. We weíre both very nerves, when all these reports started coming out with all of the problems. Not to mention, pressure from family members, telling us in, so many words, to get ride of the car before something happens.
We decided to keep our Camry and wait for the recall notice. As mention in this forum, we considered the fact, that we havenít had any problems. The resale value is low now. We still have like 3 1/2 years, before itís paid off, with a low interest rate. The percent of reported cases of sudden acceleration and accidents because of it, are really small, compared to the millions of Camryís sold for years 2007 +.
Well today, I took our Camry in for the floor mat recall, which did include them modifying the gas paddle and installing a brake override system as mentioned by Kiawah. The brake override system works really well and Iím thankful that Toyota did this for the older Camryís. So now, we can drive with confidence again, that our Camry is a safe vehicle to drive. I encourage everyone to wait for the recall notice and have the work done, before trading your car in.
Even though they still havenít found the cause of the sudden acceleration problem, which I hope they do. I am satisfied with the brake override system that was installed on our Camry and hope that all manufactures would put this on all vehicles in the future.
#5118 of 5628 Re: Toyota does not stand behind their product [avucarguy]
Mar 18, 2010 (6:59 pm)
As a automotive manufacturer, Toyota has an obligation to the vehicle buying public to manufacture a product that is safe, and properly tested prior to putting in on the market. ------- "IF" there is a mechanical / electrical issue that is causing this vehicle to accelerate on it's own, this is a VERY serious issue, and Toyota has an obligation to correct the problem ASAP! ------ This problem is not the same as a flat tire, or a defective spark plug. This problem puts the driver at a disadvantage. --- If there is a problem with these vehicles, ---- I DO NOT believe that there is an issue with the accelerator pedal, rather there is more to this issue.
Best regards. ------------ Dwayne
#5119 of 5628 Re: Toyota does not stand behind their product [djm2]
Mar 18, 2010 (8:24 pm)
What everyone doesn't understand is that Toyota doesn't have to do anything! And they didn't until forced to by adverse publicity. It wasn't the Jap or US governments who did anything; The politics are as follows: Toyota has mucho buckos-Toyota buys congress-congress passes "car industry regulation" legislation that the average person has no knowledge or concern with and which "appears" to have teeth but has none.-Toyota autos, after years poor quality - so bad that even consumers notice-in response to these "sudden" quality problems the US govt claims (a) not enough funding to police market (b) therefore Govt can't do anything unless Toyota wants it done/volunteers info. As you can see that scenario requires that Toyota "shoot itself in the foot." Our tax dollars are not spent properly. Look at the National transportation saftey board: they put an old woman in charge and gave her no funding. That is how it is done - the auto industry is self regulating unless the problem is so horrendous that the govt has to force the manufacturer (Toyota) to provide information on the problem. Even then, it is Toyota engineers who make up the reports. Why can't the US Govt jump in and get on top of these problems? Do you really think Toyota is? Toyota will lie until someone finds out what is really going on. It may turn out to be the car computers-the floor mats and the gas pedal may have been ruses. You'll notice that we still don't know what the problem is!
#5120 of 5628 2007 Camry
Mar 19, 2010 (10:29 am)
I took the Camry out for a drive to New York State yesterday, while making my rounds to customers. ------ The car performed very well, but I am not comfortable with the vehicle any longer. ----- Before this recall, I enjoyed this vehicle, but I am very disappointed with the way Toyota has handled this issue, and now I am VERY cautious when driving this vehicle. ----- It has taken all the fun of ownership out of the experience. ----- Prior to this recall I was ready to purchase a Toyota Venza. I really liked this vehicle, especially the comfort of the seats. NOW I have re-evaluated my position, and I will use the Camry till November, and then I will make my decision. I was going to keep the Camry, and trade one of my other vehicles for the Venza.
Best regards. ----------- Dwayne
#5121 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry [djm2]
Mar 19, 2010 (12:02 pm)
I still think you ought to keep it, and think of all the bad press you've heard is mostly hysteria. Your car has been absolutely fine FOR YOU, so why let others' irrational fears affect your feelings? Please read my previous post to you.
Also, you must remember all of the same hysteria when Audi 5000s were supposed to be suddenly accelerating out of control. That ended with the eventual conclusion that drivers were stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake.
But if you honestly can't let go of this fear, then you will have to trade. As for sudden acceleration, it looks like GM or Honda would be your best bet from all the data I've seen. Most other manufacturers have also had problems with this same issue, to varying degrees. Ford is not far behind Toyota in this regard.
#5122 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry water pump failure [zaken1]
Mar 19, 2010 (3:26 pm)
Thanks for the advice, very helpful. Since I haven't taken my car to the dealer for the recalls yet, I'll ask them if something like this would be covered under powertrain warranty.
#5123 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry [210delray]
Mar 19, 2010 (4:41 pm)
Thank you or the advice. I used the Camry again today. I will probably get over this issue with time, but it very hard to believe that a manufacturer like Toyota could put a product on the road without proper testing! ----- Prior to purchasing this car, I had looked at a Hyundai Sonata, but I did not follow through on the purchase, because I questioned the quality of the product, and the manufacturer! I would have expected this type of behavior from Hyundai or Kia but not Toyota.
Best regards to all! ---------- Dwayne
#5124 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry [djm2]
Mar 19, 2010 (7:33 pm)
Good for you, I sincerely hope you get over the issue with time. There is no "smoking gun" as yet in this whole story. In my humble opinion, this has been a witch hunt with Toyota in the crosshairs.
You should see what the Toyota haters have been posting on the "Toyota on the mend" forum. They're absolutely delirious that Toyota has been brought to its knees -- for no good reason, other than to promote the goodness of GM, which may not survive as a going concern. Well, at least no one's sticking up for Chrysler!
I have absolute confidence in my older Camrys and intend to keep them for a long, long time.
#5125 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry [210delray]
Mar 19, 2010 (8:08 pm)
I agree 100%, delrayMike!
A witch hunt, pure and simple.
Remember Martha Stewart going to jail? Bullcrap!
Remember H1N1? What H1N1.......never happened!
I hesitate to call anybody 'pussywhipped'........but, please remember where your break pedal, gear shift and ignition switch are........and use them.......in THAT order.....if your Camry starts to, OMG .......run away from you!!
In the meantime, just calm down and think how many dozens of thousands of miles/kilometers you've put on your loving Camry without a care in the world until some bozo forgets he has a break pedal, gear shift and ignition switch.
Case closed. Move on........cautiously, if you must!
#5126 of 5628 Re: 2007 Camry [djm2]
Mar 20, 2010 (9:17 am)
The reason stated within the recall document itself for the 2010 Prius brake failure is:
IMPROPER PROGRAMMING....... of the ABS ECU.