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#5038 of 5646 Re: Toyota Recalls 2010 Camry [nmt001]
Feb 15, 2010 (5:40 pm)
OK, if you are still not convinced that there is something wrong with the 2010 Camry, then may be a recall of the 2010 Camry would.
Itís no joke. Toyota has issued a recall of 7,300 of its 2010 Camry on Feb 9, 2010.
Funny, but this cited recall has nothing to do with sudden acceleration and amounts to maybe a week's worth of production!
And I don't think there's anything seriously wrong with the '10 Camry other than the ongoing efforts regarding the floor mats and the "sticky" gas pedal. Sean Kane claims my 2004 and 2005 Camrys are prone to accelerating wildly out of control also because of the electronics/software.
I'm hardly cringing in fear. The cars have a total of nearly 115K miles between them and I've never experienced the slightest "blip" in the throttle mechanisms. So call me skeptical.
I'm sure there will be a ton of complaints about future Camrys now that the cat is out of the bag, so to speak. Every incident will be blamed on sudden acceleration.
#5039 of 5646 Re: 2007 Camry- most complained related to speed control [nmt001]
Feb 15, 2010 (8:29 pm)
Correction for post #5020:
If you did, that means you (should not have been) extremely happy with a Camry having a potentially dangerous gas pedal. Ignorance is not bliss, at least not for those owners who got into an accident because the gas pedal stuck.
If you did not, then you should even when you are extremely happy with the performance of your 2007 Camry after TSB.
#5041 of 5646 Re: Toyota Recalls 2010 Camry [210delray]
Feb 15, 2010 (10:42 pm)
I don't think it's funny at all. Even though this recall has nothing to do with sudden acceleration, it has something to do with the possibility of leaking brake fluid, which is an extremely dangerous combination with sudden acceleration that many 2010 Camry owners complained about on the NHTSA website.
Please read the following complaint (ODI #10293611) taken from the NHTSA website:
11/24/09 I WAS DRIVING MY 2010 CAMRY IN A PARKING LOT. MY CHILDREN WERE IN THE BACK SEAT. I WAS TRAVELING 10 MPH. MY RIGHT FOOT WAS NOT ON THE GAS, NOR THE BRAKE, THE TORQUE OF THE ENGINE WAS SUFFICIENT FOR MOVING US ALONG WHILE LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPACE. MY RIGHT FOOT WAS ABOVE THE BRAKE AS I WAS SLOWLY LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPOT. SUDDENLY, I HEARD A VERY LOUD VVRROOOMMMM AND THE CAR SPONTANEOUSLY ACCELERATED AND LUNGED FORWARD APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET. THANKFULLY, I WAS ABLE TO BRAKE QUICKLY AND STOPPED THE CAR. I THEN TOOK IT TO THE DEALERSHIP. CONICELLI RAN A DIAGNOSTIC ON MY CAR. LATER THAT DAY WHEN I PICKED UP THE CAR, THEY SAID THEY FOUND NOTHING. WHEN I ASKED THEM WHERE THE "SPONTANEOUS ACCELERATION" (A PROBLEM TOYOTA EARLIER IN THE DAY TOLD ME THEY WERE HAVING) WOULD HAVE APPEARED ON THE DIAGNOSTIC, THEY WERE AT A LOSS. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WAS NOT A FLOOR MAT IN THE DRIVER'S SIDE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE "SPONTANEOUS ACCELERATION" WAS CAUSED BY THE "MAT ISSUE." I KNOW MY EXPERIENCE WAS REAL AND NOT CAUSED BY DRIVER ERROR. I FEEL THE PROBLEM IS ELSEWHERE AND EXACERBATED FOR SOME DRIVERS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE FLOOR MATS IN PLACE. PLEASE PRESS TOYOTA TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS ISSUE. I NO LONGER FEEL SAFE IN MY 2010 TOYOTA CAMRY THAT I BOUGHT FOR SAFETY REASONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. *TR THANK YOU.
(Bold type mine.)
Note that there was no floor mat on the 2010 Carmy and the driver's foot was above the brake when the "spontaneous acceleration" happened, so floor mat entrapment and sticky pedal cannot explain the dangerous anomaly.
Your blind faith that there's nothing seriously wrong with the '10 Camry other than the ongoing efforts regarding the floor mats and the "sticky" gas pedal" is not shared by me, nor by the 2010 Camry owner who experienced the "spontaneous acceleration", nor by the independent safety expert, Sean Kane.
With Toyota insisting only floor mat entrapment and sticky gas pedal to blame and your staunch support for Toyota, I wonder why you did not come to the conclusion that after all floor mats and gas pedals have been fixed in the recalled Toyotas, every sudden acceleration incident in those vehicles will be blamed on the driver stepping on the wrong pedal. That should be a more probable scenario than every incident will be blamed on sudden acceleration by Toyota owners.
#5042 of 5646 Choking Camry?
Feb 19, 2010 (2:27 am)
I have a 07 Camry LE.About 6 mths ago I noticed a poor idle when the air condition is turned on then it would go away.Lately it is doing now without the air being truned on.I took it to the dealer and they said no bad codes registered.At this p[oint they have blamed it on the battery.The battery was checked out as well as the alternator, and they both checked out ok.Any advice please?
#5043 of 5646 Re: Choking Camry? [morleybc]
Feb 19, 2010 (4:31 am)
Not sure how anyone over the internet could shoot this problem with the limited symptoms you provided, over the people that have looked at it first hand.
Why did the dealer suggest the battery? Measured low voltage ?
Did you then not have the dealer replace the battery, but took it somewhere else to check the battery? If so, did they perform a full load test on the battery and alternator? This battery may or may not be the cause of your problem, but you are probably at (or close to end) of the useful life of that battery if it is the original. I have an '07 (actual build date on drivers door jamb sticker April of '06), and my battery needed replacing about 3 months ago. So you should be thinking of replacing your original battery anyhow as a preventive measure so you don't get stuck somewhere.
Back to your problem, could be any number of things. I would make sure the mass air flow sensor is clean as well.
#5044 of 5646 Re: Choking Camry? [kiawah]
Feb 20, 2010 (8:02 am)
Dave, I was curious to see you mention the "mass air flow sensor". I've never even heard of this; what is it?
I have the exact same vintage Camry as you, and I, too, have been experiencing rough idle, strangely, ever since replacing my plugs and air filter about two months ago....which I thought would have smoothed things out, if anything.
Technology (and Toyota) works in mysterious ways!!
P.S. I'd be VERY surprised if the battery were the cause of Morley's problem.....especially if it's had no problem cranking the engine.....wouldn't you?
#5045 of 5646 Re: Choking Camry? [notmybmw]
Feb 20, 2010 (9:38 am)
Mass Air Flow Sensor measures the amount of air flowing thru the throttle valve. The ECM computer uses this information to determine the fuel injection time and to provide the appropriate air-fuel ratio.
Inside the MAF is a heated platinum wire which is exposed to the intake air. By supplying a specific electrical current to the wire, the ECM heats it to a given temperature. The flow of incoming cool air cools both the wire and an internal thermistor, affecting their resistance. ECM computer reads this and uses this as one of the inputs to determine how much fuel to shoot thru the injectors. I'd expect a DTC of P010x for a MAF problem, if identified and detected by the computer.
In regards to the battery question, the OP indicated that the dealer suspected the battery. Could have had a low voltage at that time, serious amount of corrosion (which causes a resistance, dropping apparent voltage as seen at the fuse block), or who knows what other kind of problems given voltage affects many different sensors.....all used as inputs to the computer. If battery 'checked' by someone else, hard to know what or how they checked it.....and why that is now inconsistent with dealer feedback.
Given the age of the battery, I would start there first to make sure the battery and alternator and cable connections are absolutely known to be good and supplying a good stable voltage to the vehicle. As an example of the MAF above, the sensor could be providing a low output voltage. If you replace the sensor, the new one may also provide a low output voltage. The reason, the 'input' voltage to the sensor is too low to begin with. So start with a good known voltage as a base, and troubleshoot from there.
#5046 of 5646 Re: Low Idle RPM's Camry 07 [mazo3]
Feb 21, 2010 (7:07 pm)
I Have a 07 Camry le with the 4 cyl. also. Did you ever find out your idle problem? Mine is ok when in park but has slight engine vibration when in drive with no ac on and then more if you have the ac on. The engine rpm's are at 750. Thanks for your help.
#5047 of 5646 07 camry 4cyl engine vibration
Feb 21, 2010 (7:27 pm)
For about a year now my camry has had a slight engine vibration when sitting still and in drive with no a/c on. When the a/c is on there is a little more. It idles smooth when in park or neutral. The rpm's are at 750. Does anyone know what causes this? The car did not do this for the first 45,000 miles or so. Thanks for your help.