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#5007 of 5646 Re: 2005 camry-4cyl:car won't shift out of gear! (25000 mi) [ledzepplin]
Feb 11, 2010 (7:13 am)
You haven't killed anyone yet? Please don't count on luck to keep yourself and other people safe when the engine of your Toyota Camry keeps on racing even though your foot is off the accelerator. If I were you, I would insist that Toyota find out and solve the problem before I would use it again for daily commute.
The Chinese man Koua Fong Lee was not so lucky. He was convicted of criminal vehicular homicide after his 1996 Toyota Camry raced up to 90mph on a freeway exit and then crashed into an Oldsmobile stopped at the red light, killing a St. Paul father and his 10-year-old son. His 7-year-old niece was left a quadriplegic and died a year and a half later. Mr. Lee is now serving a jail term of 8 years for a crime that he insists he did not commit.
"Koua Fong Lee testified at his trial in 2007 that he was returning home from a church event on the day of the accident. His pregnant wife, their 4-year-old daughter, his father and his brother were in the car with him.
He had no criminal history and had not been drinking or on drugs. He said he was not talking on a cell phone or distracted by anything else.
But as he pulled off the freeway, something suddenly went wrong.
"I stepped on my brakes. For some reason, the brakes did not work," he testified. "And then I was very afraid. I began to think that my family is all in this car and I was worried I was going to crash into the other vehicles."
Both the prosecutors and Mr. Lee's trial attorney blamed Mr. Lee for stepping on the accelerator rather than the brake in spite of the fact that there were numerous complaints of unintended acceleration involving 1996 Toyota Camry on the NHTSA website- a fact which indicates Mr. Lee could be telling the truth but he was unable to escape becoming a scapegoat for Toyota which was able to cover up the huge number of reports of unintended acceleration of its vehicles until the much publicized case of the death of a police officer and his family in a run away Lexus led ABC News to expose Toyota's cover-up.
Read Get Summary on complaints about Vehicle Speed Control.
ABC News reported that Kevin Haggerty, a 45-year-old salesman from Pittstown, New Jersey also experienced unintended acceleration in his 2007 Toyota Avalon.
"I had my foot on the brake," recalled Haggerty. The more he pressed the brake, the more the car accelerated. "It seemed like the accelerator was overpowering the brake."
Toyota still blames accidents involving deaths on drivers stepping on the accelerator rather than the brake in spite of numerous complaints of unintended acceleration involving Toyota vehicles.
Not only that many people are dead because of run away Toyotas, now a man who maintains his innocence with proof to support his testimony from recent findings on Toyota's unintended acceleration is being locked up for 8 years behind bars.
SHAME ON TOYOTA for allowing such tragedies to happen
#5008 of 5646 HELP! EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION!!
Feb 11, 2010 (7:27 am)
I am consuming a litre of oil every 1000 kish ( 1 quart oil every 750 miles). Any idea if there has been a silent recall? I am past warranty!
Is this a common problem
Any comments r4egarding approaching the dealer or Toyota?
What is the source of the problem?
How can I resolve the problem?
What needs to be done? Do I have to rebuild the engine?
Somewhat suggested the rings are stuck and I can I try an additive which may loosen the rings.
I have checked the [CV Valve and it is OK.
Thanks, for your comments. WPG1
#5009 of 5646 Re: HELP! EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION!! [wpg1]
Feb 11, 2010 (7:37 am)
How many kilometers are on the car? Is it a 2007 model?
Magic mystery additives won't free stuck rings, and I doubt this is the problem anyway.
#5011 of 5646 Re: 2005 camry-4cyl:car won't shift out of gear! (25000 mi) [imidazol97]
Feb 11, 2010 (2:25 pm)
With deep sense of regret and sadness i wish to complain about the sudden Gear Box problem my 2007 Toyata Camry developed. I have be seeking for a solution to it, but to know avail.
Please if you people can help in arranging for a new gear box .
#5012 of 5646 Re: 2007 Brake fluid leak [notmybmw]
Feb 11, 2010 (2:33 pm)
Thanks for the education and comments. Sound good to me.
#5013 of 5646 Re: 2005 camry-4cyl:car won't shift out of gear! (25000 mi) [solomon_1950]
Feb 11, 2010 (6:41 pm)
Did you take it to the dealership, and what did they say is wrong with it?
#5014 of 5646 Re: 2005 camry-4cyl:car won't shift out of gear! (25000 mi) [nmt001]
Feb 11, 2010 (7:58 pm)
You're absolutely right! But, if I take it in I will be without a car for a long time. I will have to be very careful to remain at 30 or 35mph. I feel that if I bring it in (supposing I could do that) it would run perfectly. That has happened 3 or 4 times with my toyotas. All I can pray for is that a tree or a tsunami or a fire will destroy it.
#5015 of 5646 Dilemma of Toyota owners with OCCASIONAL unintended acceleration
Feb 12, 2010 (3:30 am)
I understand your dilemma. If your Toyota is not one of the recalled models or years but you experienced unintended acceleration or engine flare only OCCASIONALLY, it is likely the Toyota service staff will tell you they find nothing wrong with your car when you bring it in..
But finding out the problem should not be the sole objective of bringing the vehicle in.
This is what I suggest you should do:
1/ Establish documentary records with the Toyota service department. The service document you possess should have statements indicating that you had brought the car in because of occasional unintended acceleration or engine flare. It is the most important step to protect yourself against being falsely accused of stepping on the accelerator by mistake in case an accident happens because of unintended acceleration. Keep the original documents at home, not in the car, and let family members know where you keep the documents.
2/ If Toyota can not find out and fix the problem of occasional unintended acceleration in your car and you had no choice but to drive it, you must learn and practice in a safe location on how to stop your vehicle safely if serious unintended acceleration occurs.
3/ If you experience minor unintended acceleration or engine flare, post a complaint on Edmunds.com and state that you had brought the car in but Toyota could not find out the problem. If you experience a serious unintended acceleration or flare, complain to the NHTSA.
4/ If you have an adult passenger in your car when the unintended acceleration or engine flare happens, have the passenger sign a written note about the incident as a witness and put the phone number of the passenger on the note too.
5/ Check out the complaint section on the NHTSA website to see if any owners of the same model and year complained about the Vehicle Speed Control. If many owners of the same model and year complained about the same or similar problem, contact NHTSA to demand action to be taken to force Toyota to deal with the problem seriously.
Is your Toyota in the recall lists? What model and year is your car?
#5016 of 5646 2007 Camry- most complained related to speed control
Feb 12, 2010 (2:46 pm)
In an attempt to see a broader picture of Toyota's unintended acceleration problem, I have collected the following data of complaints related to Vehicle Speed Control against Toyota Camry from 1990 to 2009 on the NHTS website and found two startling peaks of complaint related to Vehicle Speed Control . Anybody who wants to confirm the data can use the link below:
Year [Speed Control] [Pedal] [Cruise Control] [Cable or Linkage] = Speed Control Related Complaints
From the above data, we can see that :
1/ The number of complaints related to Vehicle Speed Control for each model year suddenly jumped from the average of about 26 complaints for each model year to 164 complaints for the 2002 model. It is a more than six folds increase that begs for explanation.
It turned out that 2002 was the year when Toyota first introduced the Drive by Wire system for controlling the throttle electronically with computer programming. Obviously, Toyota’s DBW system was not tested thorough enough to match the reliability of the cable controlled throttle system before being introduced into Toyota Camry in 2002.
2/ For the models from 2003 to 2006, the number of complaints decreased gradually from triple digits back to the double digit of 40 only. However, the number of complaints related to speed control suddenly jumped to an all time high of 173 cases for the 2007 Camry. The figures dropped to double digits again in 2008 and 2009. Therefore, if you own a 2007 Camry, there is a higher probability of your car having Vehicle Speed Control problems.
I can not find the reason for the sudden jump of the number of complaints related to speed control for the 2007 Camry but I believe the Toyota manufacturer should have some clues about it as they know what changes, including hardware and software, have been made to the DBW system in the 2007 Camry in comparison to the 2006 Camry.