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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? by ledzepplin
Jul 08, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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My 2007 camry v6 (65000mi) just coated a road in Westchester with 6 qts of very expensive 5w30 oil. I have read numerous posts about the defective oil hose on the v6's but have not seen anyone who has taken Toyota to court on what must be considered a recall situation and not a tsb!
 
My toyota service manager suspiciously agreed to quickly tow my car to the dealer after the above incident. They are setting me up for the "its out of warranty" chorus; I am told that the warranty is 5yrs or 60,000 mi. I only missed by 5k.
 
I fully intend to take the dealership to small claims court if the cost is not
reimbursed. Please let me know what other actions you have taken to get
reimbursement. Thanks.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [ledzepplin] by mcdawgg
Jul 08, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: ledzepplin (Jul 08, 2009 6:40 pm)

If it is only 5,000 out of warranty, just call the 800 number for Toyota in your owner's manual and nicely explain the situation. Toyota will most likely agree to cover it without any problems, and they will contact the dealer to give them the OK. I had to do this years ago with a seat belt release button that was sticking. It was about 3 months past the warranty, but they (calling the 800 number for Toyota in California) agreed to cover it without any problems. Good luck, please let us know how it goes. I bet you will be just fine. The dealership is not the problem here. Just call Toyota.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [ledzepplin] by dmathews3
Jul 09, 2009 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: ledzepplin (Jul 08, 2009 6:40 pm)

I don't think small claims will do you any good as the warranty is from Toyota. You will have to sue them as the dealer has no choice but to charge you if Toyota turns them down.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [dmathews3] by kiawah
Jul 09, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jul 09, 2009 5:01 am)

I've always wondered about this, having never sued anyone over my lifetime. What is the practical chance of recovering anything, given a published written warranty which clearly calls out what is warranted and for how long. Doesn't Toyota have a legal defense here, and if they do anything it's a concession?
 
Seems to me if they say a particular thing is warranted for 36 months, and it's now 40 months, that the delivered what they were legally required to do. Regardless of the fact that we all think the part should never fail, last forever, and nothing ever need fixing........aren't they really legally only responsible for the warranty period?
 
I'm not for or against Toyota or any manufacturer, just trying to understand how legally they could/should be accountable for something outside of the scope of the warranty, where they sold the product with a written warranty, and the consumer accepted the product and the terms of that warranty. It baffles me to think that I would have some right or implied warranty beyond that. Manufacturer good will would be nice, but legally obligated I didn't think so.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [kiawah] by wwest
Jul 09, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Jul 09, 2009 6:14 am)

You are correct, the legal approach would mostly not work were it not for the fear of the publicity surrounding same, especially for a common/widespread failure or an obvious factory defect.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [wwest] by dmathews3
Jul 09, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 09, 2009 7:54 am)

Problem with Toyota is they have deep pockets and most small claims courts allow the person being sued the right to move the suit up to regular court with juries etc. which means they use their lawyers that are being paid anyway against you who they know don't have a lawyer or if you hire one it will end up costing you more than the fix. One time I bought a new truck and this was back before the manufacturers seen the light or the $$$$ they could charge and anyway I installed my own radio. Well to make a long story short they shorted out the radio and then wanted me to send it in to be fixed with them paying but most likely I'd been without my radio for a couple months on a 2 week old truck. Well I made up a picket sign and about 10 min. of walking in front of the dealers he bought me a new radio as I told him I'd called the local TV station and they were going to send a crew by on the way back from another story.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose-tsb or recall? [wwest] by ledzepplin
Jul 12, 2009 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 09, 2009 7:54 am)

Thanks for reply. You are right about the legal aspects but dealers hate courtrooms and they have to bring a lawyer. The judge I dealt with in my case against a scumbag Honda dealer said that I didn't have to sue the manufacturer because the dealer is an agent. That may or may not be legally valid but I sure got my car fixed in a hurry. The judge gave the dealer a deadline!
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2007 camry vvt hose by ledzepplin
Jul 12, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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I talked to a toyota mechanic (currently employed by a large dlr) who has fixed many of the leaking oil lines and he told me that this has be going on for several years. This is, in fact , the third time that Toyota has tried to stop the leaking line. He said that the rubber part used at first was destroyed by the vapors in the line (?) and that another material was used thereafter and that failed. Supposedly the repair on my car is the third and last. This certainly should be a recall. I have to start negotiating with the dealer and manuf. tommorrow. This is a $700 slam to Toyota customers. Thanks.
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Re: 2007 camry vvt hose [ledzepplin] by dmathews3
Jul 13, 2009 (3:28 am)
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Replying to: ledzepplin (Jul 12, 2009 7:36 pm)

It just amazes me that Toyota people are so shocked when something goes wrong with their cars. What do you think all those service bays at the dealer are for. They do more than change oil. And now that they are starting to sell as many a year as GM they are finding out the cars are far from perfect too. It's hard to mass produce that many cars in as short a time frame as customers demand without screw ups as GM found out in the 80's. Quality goes down hill just like Toyota is and GM who are selling less is going back up hill.
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Possible Explanation for Camry Vibration Issues by smarty666
Jul 13, 2009 (11:17 am)
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I couldn't help but notice that several people have complained on here about vibration issues with their camry at high speeds and handling/steering problems with their car; I drive a 2008 TL that came with OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400 tires; I had terrible problems as soon as I took the car off the lot with shimmy/vibrations through the steering wheel, gas/brake pedals, and seats doing anything over 50 mph and the faster I went the worse it got; also, I had problems with the car veering to the right and terrible handling in wet weather; I had all the tires balanced and a front-end alignment done by my acura dealers which didn't help any of the problems; I finally had to call Bridgestone and made a deal to have to top of a line Bridgestone serenity tires put on my car; once I had the serenity's put on all my vibration/handling problems stopped and I have been able to enjoy the car ever since
 
I know that toyota uses OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400s on the camry and after the problems I had you all might be having the same problems; it is not the car but the tires themselves; like Acura, Toyota will do nothing about the problem and you would have to contact bridgestone and take it to a bridgestone/firestone dealer; while there I found out that the serenity's were made because of all the problems/complaints people had on the EL400s; the Turanza EL400 were the worst tires I ever had and I consider them dangerous and unsafe; I was glad I got rid of them before winter weather came!!!!
 
If at all possible the OEM Michelin Energy's that Toyota and Lexus put on the camry and ES350, while not a great tire are far better than the Turanza EL400s; hopefully Acura, Toyota, Lexus, and Nissan will get it eventually that these OEMs they are putting on their top selling vehicles are not good and will use better quality Michelins, goodyears, or yokies!!!

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