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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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Re: Documentation [teamtbo] by user777
Sep 29, 2007 (1:12 am)
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Replying to: teamtbo (Sep 28, 2007 11:02 am)

you don't need a diagnotics tech at the dealership to duplicate nor witness the phenomenon to have objective information to present to them so they can speak with corporate on what to do, or so you can provide to your lawyer so he can get you out of a vehicle that toyota can't seem to repair.
 
in theory, all you need is a laptop and an on board diagnostic scanning tool with a laptop interface with appropriate software for capturing data, and a little motivation to experiment.
 
in a few forums that were marked READ-ONLY where we've been discussing engine hesitation for years it seems now, i suggested people buy an item like this:
http://www.obd-2.com/
 
and specifically, see the toyota-specific parameters you'd have access to if you bought this thing:
http://www.obd-2.com/toypida.htm
 
so you hook this device up to the car and laptop, and you drive, you capture the relevant signals and you unfortunately experience the:
     1) engine hesitation to throttle input
     2) shift flares
     3) excessive shifting with cruise enabled
     4) ... insert your problem here ...
 
now, you go another step further and you plot the data in Excel and stick it in PowerPoint or some free plotting tool (if you don't have MS Office). Or, post the data on Edmunds, and let people help you plot the data.
 
check out this poor person's dilema and the poor response from thier dealership:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e6cd4/56
 
perfect application of the product i'm mentioning, yes?
 
As they say, where there's the will, there's a way.
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Re: Documentation [user777] by kiawah
Sep 29, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Sep 29, 2007 1:12 am)

user777,
 
Do you have a set of these connectors and software? or know of someone who does?
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Re: 07 Camry vibration [terrr] by camryaz
Sep 29, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: terrr (Sep 21, 2007 5:18 pm)

terr,
 
I am experiencing a similar problem w/ vibration in my 07 Camry XLE. Happens 40-50 MPH and 70-80 MPH. This vibration has been present since I took delivery 15 months / 17K miles ago. I have endured this vib every day... talk about a severe irritant. The dealer and the Toyota field rep diagnosis has been all over the map from tire rotation to excessive road force to alignment to Camry design. I have opened a case w/ Toyota Customer Service and have escalated this to the Toyota Dist Mgr. Currently I am waiting for the decision.
 
Up to this point, the Toyota recommendation is for ME to replace all 4 tires and have the vehicle aligned stating that I caused the problem (no data to support this position). I know better because of people like you. It concerns me greatly that a company like Toyota will not stand behind the quality of the product they deliver to the consumer.
 
Based on everything I have read, this appears to be a sub-quality tire issue that is occurring industry wide (tires delivered on new cars). I am thinking about engaging a consumer advocate group soon!
 
CamryAZ
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Re: 07 Camry vibration [camryaz] by acco20
Sep 29, 2007 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: camryaz (Sep 29, 2007 10:35 am)

I know it is to late now, but if you learn from this experiance you, and others who are reading this, will benifit. NEVER sign any paperwork at time of delivery, without a test drive. Take the car on an extended drive on local streets and especially on the freeway where you can feel the cars reaction to faster speeds and control over highway roads at highway speeds. I went through a similar problem years ago, and never again. If you find something wrong, they will tell you,"no problem" we will take care of it, "sign here". I say, "fix it". I will be back to sign and pick it up after it is fixed. JMHO.
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Re: Documentation [kiawah] by user777
Sep 29, 2007 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Sep 29, 2007 6:31 am)

no, but i saw an engineer at work using one to diagnose a CEL on a Ford Van. It can do that too. Even though I drive Hondas, I'm thinking of getting one to learn more about engine and transmission control.
 
What is so attractive about this reader, it that it doesn't just read codes and reset the light. it can capture and save parameters to a laptop while someone runs the engine (or drives).
 
What is even better, more appropos to this discussion is the VERY rich Toyota specific parameters it can capture. Did you look at the list?
 
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Re: Documentation [user777] by kiawah
Sep 29, 2007 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Sep 29, 2007 5:16 pm)

Yes, looked at the list.
 
I'm really wondering how the software looks, and how often it samples the data on the bus. In order to be effective at troubleshooting, I would think the software would allow you to select some number of parameters that you want to display over the period, and then time stamp with other operating parameters such as speed, shift points, rpms's, etc.
 
If the software allows you to graph, as well as output as a common deliminted file that other applications could use, then that would be really useful.
 
I could see uses for anyone who works on a number of vehicles (get all 3 of the adapters)....or a person who was trying to gather statistics for a hard-to-capture/hard-to-diagnose problem.
 
The software capability is the real important buy/no-buy decision point for me.
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Re: Documentation [kiawah] by user777
Sep 30, 2007 (4:24 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Sep 29, 2007 6:34 pm)

yes, you see the value of this product!
 
as i understand it, it can do all those things.
 
documentation and a trial download are available.
http://www.obd-2.com/#download
 
and you can contact the author (with questions):
http://www.obd-2.com/about.htm
 
looks like the author isn't taking questions during Octoberfest (sept 22-oct 2), but you could write him for specifics.
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07 Camry - excessive oil consumption by wheelinwillie
Oct 01, 2007 (11:01 pm)
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After 6 visits to our Toyota dealer regarding low engine oil and excessive oil consumption, Toyota engineers in Japan basically said it's normal and to look in the owners manual - page 291. To my horror, it says: Oil consumption-max 1.1 qt. per 600 miles. Does this sound "normal" to anyone out there? Does your Camry consume 1 qt. of oil every one thousand miles? Has anyone heard of a new car that burns so much oil? not to mention a Toyota.
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [wheelinwillie] by kiawah
Oct 02, 2007 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: wheelinwillie (Oct 01, 2007 11:01 pm)

I never in 30+ years of owning/driving cars with over a million miles on our vehicles, have ever had to add a quart of oil between oil changes (always done between 3K to 5K, usually between 3 and 4K). I always keep vehicles at least 10 years, so have a mixture of new/old vehicles, a mixture of American and Foreign, a mixture of gas and diesel....typically putting 100-150K miles on the vehicles.
 
So my personal practical experience differs from that published acceptable consumption rate. Some believe that oil consumption is fine, I'm not in that camp.
 
Other than selling the car however, not sure that there is anything you can do about it (unless you have something wrong in the EGR area). Rebuilding engines to fix oil consumption is an impractical option.
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [kiawah] by dmathews3
Oct 02, 2007 (3:15 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Oct 02, 2007 3:07 am)

that 1.1 seems to be the going rate between most manufacturers even though I know of no one who would want to own one of them.

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