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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [dlrev] by kiawah
Oct 08, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: dlrev (Oct 08, 2009 9:07 am)

I heard about the floormat recall, what..... you didn't hear about the Toyota loosing billions of dollars??????
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [kiawah] by wwest
Oct 08, 2009 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Oct 08, 2009 10:49 am)

Hey, the US tax code virtually dictates that businesses "manage" the books to indicate substantial losses even in the best of financial times. Then at times like now, businesses often discover themselves ill prepared to find alternative ways to reverse the book "management".
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [djm2] by notmybmw
Oct 10, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: djm2 (Oct 08, 2009 8:05 am)

Wayne....I'm curious; what's this BG MOS stuff? You a distributor? Own shares?
 
Also, some comments/questions about your "suggestions":
3.) Take a sample of the old oil and have it analyzed to see if there is fuel in the oil.
WHERE?
 
4.) Keep an accurate record as to the mileage and the amount of oil used.
AND TELL WHOM?
 
5.) Replace the PCV valve with a new Toyota PCV valve.
WHERE IS IT LOCATED, EXACTLY? HOW MUCH DOES THIS ITEM COST?
 
6.) Check your engine for sludge!
WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF SLUDGE? THIS IS PRETTY SUBJECTIVE, ISN'T IT?LIKE........THERE'S SOME BLACK CRUD INSIDE MY OIL FILLER CAP.....IS THAT SLUDGE?
 
Thanks for your comments.
Mike
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [notmybmw] by imidazol97
Oct 11, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: notmybmw (Oct 10, 2009 7:41 pm)

Oil analysis:
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
 
Oil usage rate records:
Use them for your own purpose to support your consumption claims to Toyota
 
BG:
http://www.bgprod.com/history.html
This is a brand of additives sold primarily to car shops to use/sell to retail customers. The products are available on the internet for individuals to purchase as well; try ebay.
 
>sludge:
 
Checking for sludge can be subjective. A good technique is to have the valve cover removed and see what's collecting inside. At 54,000 mi there should be relatively little there if oil changes were done on time and with good quality oils. A Toyota salesman told me he showed customers on used cars how to check by sticking his finger into the valve cover and wiping to see what came out on his finger. I assume that was through the oil filler opening. Stuff collecting on the filler cap usually doesn't mean much because it sticks up where it's much cooler and acts as a condenser for various things in vapor form inside the motor.
 
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [imidazol97] by 210delray
Oct 13, 2009 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 11, 2009 6:43 am)

I'm speaking for djm, but he's reported many times he had his dealer change the oil every 2500 miles (twice the recommended frequency), and he does a lot of highway driving. His dealer recommended the BG additive, which I personally think is snake oil just to line the dealer's pockets. There's no way in hell his car is going to have sludge, given the very frequent oil changes, long distance driving, and no record of sludge occurring with the new 3.5-liter V6 that was introduced in the Camry in 2007.
 
As I've reported before, I had a 1997 Camry with the 2.2-liter 4 that was one of the engines with the reputed sludge problem. I did all the own oil changes myself at the recommended (for severe service) 5K mile intervals or less (about 3 times a year), and had no sludge issues over the 7 years and 111K miles I owned the car. I always used conventional (dino) oil too -- no synthetics and no additives.
 
This was the first car I've owned in 30+ years that never showed any loss of oil on the dipstick between oil changes. This is also true now for all 3 of my current cars: 1998 Frontier, 2004 Camry, and 2005 Camry. Only my lawn mowers now use oil!
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [imidazol97] by notmybmw
Oct 13, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 11, 2009 6:43 am)

Now that I see BG's logo on their products.......I think I recall using one of their chain lubes (or some other motorcycle specialty product of theirs) back in my racing days.
I agree with the other writer: I would not be inclined to use ANY product that was billed as an oil or engine life "extender" ....simply on the basis that it DOES sound like a snake oil scam. If the "normal" oil I'm already paying between 4 and 10 bucks a litre/quart for (dino OR synth) isn't already "EXTENDING" the life of my engine....then screw the whole process. May as well put Walmart crap in it and save a whole lotta dough!
Just my two cents worth!
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [notmybmw] by 210delray
Oct 13, 2009 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: notmybmw (Oct 13, 2009 2:09 pm)

Agreed, and I don't think there's a manufacturer of any car sold in the US that recommends using ANY oil additives, at least according to their owners' manuals. Who knows more about the car than the people who built it? Certainly not the dealer.
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Re: 07 Camry - excessive oil consumption [210delray] by imidazol97
Oct 13, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Oct 13, 2009 4:26 pm)

>I don't think there's a manufacturer of any car sold in the US that recommends using ANY oil additives,
 
I believe my car manual says no additives are needed for the oil. It says to use oil marked with the proper GM specification and that's all that's needed.
Oils have improved greatly in the last several years.
 
Re engines using or not using oil:
An engine has to use some oil coating the cylinder walls as the rings slide down and then up on them. No oil would mean friction. The upper part of the cylinder is going to have oil burning off the wall due to the combustion. But many cars use very little. The combustion products that end up in the oil must add enough volume they replace the oil that is, in my thinking away, being used by the car to recoat the cylinder walls. There are always stories about people who drive their car under city conditions and short drives that build up byproducts in the volume of their oil. Then they take a highway trip and all of a sudden the contaminants are purged due to contstant high temperatures and in the cylinders as part of the oil coating, and when they check their oil they find the level is down. So they blame the highway driving for using oil when the car has been using oil all along and just replacing the lost volume with combustion products.
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Welcome to Camry Message by jep56
Oct 26, 2009 (10:33 am)
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I just purchased a pre-owned 2007 Camry. Is there a way to change the "Welcome To Camry" message that appears on the stereo face when first starting the car?
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Re: Welcome to Camry Message [jep56] by kiawah
Oct 26, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: jep56 (Oct 26, 2009 10:33 am)

Not that anyone has ever reported being able to do....

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