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#177 of 236 Re: Servicing at dealerships [gdoctsx1] by fedlawman Jan 28, 2007 (5:59 pm)
Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 28, 2007 2:40 pm) "I don't recall what the cost was every time I brought my car in, as I did so every 5ooo clicks...a few of the services at the dealer were quite expensive (over 400)and couple in the 600-700 range."   I would remind you that in your original statement, all you said was: "BMW makes a good car, but the tank dash and $700 services were a waste. To the 3 series lovers, go check out acura and lexus - you may never go back."   I'm glad to hear you were a thoughtful owner, getting intermediate oil changes in between BMW's ridiculously long factory service intervals. Even so, it still doesn't explain the hideous amount of money you paid for preventative maintenance. "A few services" over $400 and at 2 services in the $600 - $700 range are not routine BMW ownership expenses.   The fact is, if you own a 1999 or newer BMW, the only services you need are: Periodic oil/filter changes, a 48,000 km Inspection I, and annual fluid flushes (engine coolant and transmission, differential, and brake fluids).   Yours was an atypical BMW ownership experience at best (and also moot since BMW now has free maintenance for the first 4 years/50,000 miles).   Oh, and yes I've been a BMW owner since summer 2005.
#178 of 236 15 dollar services. Only in the US by gdoctsx1 Jan 28, 2007 (6:37 pm)
Must be the Canadian dealerships ripping off the igloo people. Sounds like you're servicing your cars for the price of buying cheese. Good on ya! I'm sure the cost of service has improved since my vehicle. Hope so.   I don't think the "tank dash" is harsh. I don't care for any of the German interiors. I find Acura and Lexus (and infinity now improving) interiors more luxurious and overall look more pleasing. However, I love the 99 and newer M3's. So, I'd be able to handle the lack luster..wall of black tank interior for fantastic performance.   Atypical experience. Perhaps. Until the designers of BMW get the look of the 3 series and 5 together, i'll stick with the Japanese. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Jan 28, 2007 6:54 pm)
#179 of 236 Re: 15 dollar services. Only in the US [gdoctsx1] by fedlawman Jan 28, 2007 (6:54 pm)
Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 28, 2007 6:37 pm) I agree with you on the looks. I don't like the E90 or E60 either.   I grew up on Japanese sports cars. I even owned a 2004 TSX for 2 years and loved it - fun to drive and a great interior.   I switched to BMW in 2005 and I'm not going back anytime soon.
#180 of 236 06 TSX by gdoctsx1 Jan 28, 2007 (9:42 pm)
I've been looking at various sites for the horsepower changes for the 06 TSX. I've seen some dyno videos that say it's up about 15hp from the 04'. I'm a tad biased, but it sure feels faster than the white 04'my friend owns. I'm not sure how accurate the 205HP is for the TSX. Feels stronger than that. Any thoughts out there on what the change really is? Replies to this message: pat (Jan 29, 2007 3:49 am) wrx_tsx (Feb 09, 2007 6:00 pm) gdoctsx1 (Feb 09, 2007 6:42 pm) fedlawman (Feb 09, 2007 7:58 pm)
#181 of 236 Re: 06 TSX [gdoctsx1] by pat HOST Jan 29, 2007 (3:49 am)
Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 28, 2007 9:42 pm) Since this is a comparo, why not check out the TSX group and ask in one of the dedicated TSX discussions.   By the way, welcome to the Forums!
#182 of 236 Re: Loving the TSX and IS. [gdoctsx1] by johnny420 Jan 29, 2007 (7:51 am)
Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 28, 2007 10:51 am) The car jumps forward when you're in traffic when you touch the accelerator very lightly, and during acceleration if you lay off the gas to reduce speed and then resume accelerating the engine jolts you forward. Odd.   I didn't see this specifically referenced in the link you provided, but what you describe sounds exactly like the TSX drive by wire "lag" issue. Disappointing that Acura hasn't resolved this in the almost four years since the TSX came out.   The article talks mostly about non-linear acceleration due to the turbo, not so much what you describe.   Thanks for the link.   Dire Straits is easy listening? When did this happen? Replies to this message: frisconick (Jan 30, 2007 8:47 am)
#183 of 236 Re: Loving the TSX and IS. [johnny420] by frisconick Jan 30, 2007 (8:47 am)
Replying to: johnny420 (Jan 29, 2007 7:51 am) I has a TSX loaner and didn't notice any lurching?
#184 of 236 Re: 06 TSX [gdoctsx1] by wrx_tsx Feb 09, 2007 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 28, 2007 9:42 pm) There is a new formula for measuring power output for cars (sae something standard) that turned out lowering the power output on *most* cars in the past year or so. For instance the Subaru Legacy GT was 250hp, but now on paper it's 243 even though it's the same exact engine. Same goes for the WRX STi, it was 300, now it's 293. On the other hand Chevy wanted 500hp for the new Z06 but came out with 505 under the new standard. So, the TSX is rated for the 07MY at 205hp but if it was based on teh old standard would be between 210 and 215 probably. I'm pretty sure the standard started to take affect for the 06MY because the numbers i quoted above were for 06 models compared to the 2005 models. So the 2006 205hp is probably 210hp in 2005 terms. Replies to this message: gdoctsx1 (Feb 09, 2007 6:42 pm) fedlawman (Feb 09, 2007 7:58 pm)
#185 of 236 Re: 06 TSX [wrx_tsx] by gdoctsx1 Feb 09, 2007 (6:42 pm)
Replying to: wrx_tsx (Feb 09, 2007 6:00 pm) Thanks 'wrx_tsx'. I absolutely love the motor in my TSX. To me, it's a very quick 205hp. I guess from driving a lot of honda products over the years, I really dig finding the right gear. I find the torque in the car fine. Infact, I prefer the feel of the TSX engine to the RDX. I've driven plenty of cars with peak torque under 3000rpm but, I missed the upper register fun. My previous 3series BMW, was similar horsepower with more torque, but had very comparible performance with less fun factor than this car.   Just as a totally unrelated note. My brother was quite blown away this week on the highway when his g35 would pull away from me very slowly after 140km/hr. Infact, from 140-200km I was within 3 car lengths away. Not bad for a "under powered" car! Not to mention the interior, stero, navi, materials used in the cabin seem better quality than the 05 g35. Although, a collegue at work has an 05' 911 turbo....now that's sick power! Rip your face off in every gear. I'd just have to get over the lawn mower sound/feel of the engine under 3000rmp...hmmmm....I think i could!
#186 of 236 Re: 06 TSX [wrx_tsx] by fedlawman Feb 09, 2007 (7:58 pm)
Replying to: wrx_tsx (Feb 09, 2007 6:00 pm) "There is a new formula for measuring power output for cars (sae something standard) that turned out lowering the power output on *most* cars in the past year or so."   You know, I thought my car got a little slower last year.

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