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Sedans Acura TL Acura TL vs Lexus IS 250 vs Acura TSX
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| I drive an 06 TSX/Navi and love driving the car. This is my 7th car and my previous bmw 325 had half the features with more torque, but I prefer the TSX's motor overall. Personally, I'd take the fun of the v-tec opening up at around 5200rpm vs the difference in the torque. If you've never really driven the TSX for a few days straight - do so. It's an amazing motor with a great dampened throaty sound. If you want massive power, go for the 07 g35 or IS350. For Toronto driving, 306hp gets you more tickets than richard simmons has candy strip shorts. As far as waiting for the 2008 version of the TSX - why bother. If it has that quirky turbo engine in the RDX, I'll either move to a normally aspirated v-6 in the TL or consider the IS. My fionce has the IS250awd. I obviously drive both frequently. Can't go wrong with either. As far as performance goes, up to about 180km/hr both cars stay side by side within 1 car length. Second gear in the TSX pulls stronger, while 3rd in the Lexus pulls with more grunt. Both are good looking cars. I prefer the interior of the TSX, however the front end of the IS is gorgeous. From the back, I prefer the TSX. The tailights on the IS need some revamping in my opinion. The IS is so smoothe, you'll forget the transmission is even shifting gears. After driving an 04 BMW325 for 3 years, I'd never go back. BMW makes a good car, but the tank dash and $700 services were a waste. To the 3 series lovers, go check out acura and lexus - you may never go back. | |
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Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 26, 2007 7:57 pm) If you pay $700 for a routine service on any car, you're getting ripped off. |
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Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 26, 2007 7:57 pm)  And the RDX motor is quirky? I hadn't heard that. Can you provide a link? |
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Replying to: johnny420 (Jan 27, 2007 10:46 am) 
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Replying to: johnny420 (Jan 27, 2007 10:46 am)
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Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 27, 2007 9:08 pm) 
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Here's the link about the 'quirky' engine stuff. I felt the same way when I drove the vehicle. Overall good feel, but the engine has an odd feel in regular city driving. The car jumps forward when you're in traffic when you touch the accelerator very lightly, and during acceleration if you lay off the gas to reduce speed and then resume accelerating the engine jolts you forward. Odd. http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6542178.html
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Replying to: gdoctsx1 (Jan 27, 2007 9:06 pm) For 99 and newer BMW's, the recommended service interval is as follows: 15,000 miles (24,000 km) - Oil Service 30,000 miles (48,000 km) - Inspection I 45,000 miles (72,000 km) - Oil Service Inspection I consists of: * Change engine oil and filter * Check transmission for leaks. * Check rear axle for leaks. * Check fuel tank, lines, and connections for leaks. * Check condition, position, and mounting of exhaust system. * Check power steering system for leaks. * Check overall thickness of front and rear disc brake pads. * Examine brake disc surfaces. * Clean brake pad contact points in calipers. * Grease wheel center hubs. * Check steering for absence of play, condition of suspension track rods, front axle joints, steering linkage, and joint disc. * Check front control arm bushing for wear. * Check brake and clutch system connectors and lines for leaks, damage, and incorrect positioning. * Check for free movement of the parking brake cables. Adjust parking brake if necessary. * Check all tire pressures (including spare). Correct if necessary. * Check condition of tires (outer surfaces (left/right)), tread wear and pattern; In case of uneven tread wear readjust wheel alignment if required. An oil service shouldn't cost any more than $40 or $50. Even an inspection I takes less than 1 hour to complete. It shouldn't have cost more than $100 to $150. If you paid $700 for these services, then you were ripped off - live and learn right? Just don't go telling other people to avoid buying a BMW because they are expensive to maintain. Remember the idiom, "a fool and his money are easily parted." |
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Thanks for your input, but you've obviously never owned a BMW. You're absolutely correct that my "24, 000, 48, 000 etc..were wrong. I was speaking generally. I don't recall what the cost was every time I brought my car in, as I did so every 5ooo clicks. I drove the car for 90,000km. I'm simply stating that a few of the services at the dealer were quite expensive (over 400)and couple in the 600-700 range. The most expensive scheduled services at the dealer out of any vehicle i've owned. I don't have the time right now, but I will get you some numbers straight from the dealer I was with. If you service your 3series at the dealership, you will never be able to service your car following the schedule BMW sets out for the cost you're suggesting. When I owned a 97' honda prelude, the C and D service were approximately 200-300 dollars. You know.... clean the pads, rotate tires, check fluid....etc. I suggest you buy a 3 series and service it at the dealer. If you can get away with 1hr services for 50bucks, it's most likely because you're delusional - you're actually at a hyndai dealership. Not one collegue I know with a BMW, servicing their car at the dealer ever paid what you're describing. I feel very comfortable telling anyone IN MY EXPERIENCE out of the 7 cars i've owned that the 3 series was by far the most expensive for regular dealer maintenence. "Just don't go telling...." I most certainly will share my experience! I also went 100,000km without every changing the pads on my 1990 accord ex-r. We'll see if Acura and the TSX are cheaper, as I plan to service my car at the dealer. I figure if you can afford 35-50k price tag, you should be able to afford the services (perhaps not the 700range unless you're driving a 911.
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| No, I don't remember "a fool and his money are easily parted." I only remember "better to have money to part with, then none at all" | |
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