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Saturn gets Opel Astra

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Re: OK [chrisducati] by harrychezt
May 14, 2006 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: chrisducati (May 14, 2006 10:13 am)

that would be great. I have not purchased a "GM" product since 1987( Chevy Spectrum, a rebadged Isuzu I-Mark).
 
I would buy one of these, if they live up to expectations(and the aforementioned 3 door/hatch).
 
Guess we will have to wait awhile longer for official word.
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Re: the cost of that panorama windshield... [nwng] by logic1
May 15, 2006 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: nwng (May 11, 2006 6:17 am)

I wouldn't want to have a rollover accident in this car
 
This would not be an issue.
 
The structural rigidity of a car is from the frame, not the 3/16" sheet metal that makes up the roof.
 
The Astra with the panoramic windshield has the same frame. It just replaces some of the tissue thin sheet metal with glass.
 
I suppose a rolled panoramic windshield Astra may shower you with a few more bits of glass. But the glass will be the tempered safety variety that breaks up into little pieces.
 
There will be no safety differences at all. Again, the only issue I would see is heat build up in sunnier climes. If it has a shading feature as suggested above, even that will not be much of a problem.
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [bumpy] by schmidtj
May 21, 2006 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 08, 2006 6:32 am)

FINALLY! A "american" car we can actually want. I think this could be very, very good for GM. I say drop all the "american" designed GM cars and brin gover the Euro designed ones. There much better!
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [schmidtj] by rockylee
May 22, 2006 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: schmidtj (May 21, 2006 1:24 pm)

I agree with you and they are very nice. OTOH some american designs are very nice, but just don't have the hardware to make em' winners. i.e. FWD vs. RWD. 4 speed auto, instead of a 6- speed. Interior quality of the Euro's is better. I think american designers can and will design better cars and GM management will allow those cars to have better quality in my opinion. The Buick Lucerne is just one example.
 
Rocky
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [rockylee] by v_d
Aug 21, 2006 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (May 22, 2006 7:08 am)

What`s the price of the Lucerne again?
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [v_d] by rockylee
Sep 01, 2006 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: v_d (Aug 21, 2006 11:40 am)

Depends on trim level one gets ?
 
Rocky
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [rockylee] by v_d
Sep 02, 2006 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 01, 2006 2:37 pm)

no no no.... you said GM did a good thing with the Lucerne... what i meant is that everything comes at a price... and in the case of the Lucerne that is $26k... I`d say that`s not much, but other ppl will think "THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS". It`s a great car, with a "great" price. You pay what you get, I hope for the best with the Astra, I really want to see how Saturn will "rebadge" it, they have to change the looks like they did with the Aura *which is awesome*. Will see, I hope it won't be a Cobalt or Pursuit.
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [v_d] by rockylee
Sep 03, 2006 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: v_d (Sep 02, 2006 6:16 pm)

I agree, you do get what you pay for most of the time.
 
Rocky
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Re: Oh, there's no question about that. [rockylee] by v_d
Sep 03, 2006 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 03, 2006 4:37 pm)

true true..
about the Astra now:
 
EUROPE:
5-Door Astra: 1.8L Gas Engine 140HP - starts at 12.626E MSRP (about $19.000 CAD) *Cosmo is 14.126E ($22.000 CAD)*
5-Door Astra: 2.0L Gas Turbo 170CP/200CP - 15.635E/18.786E ($23.000 CAD/$28.000 CAD). $1 USD = $1.2 CAD
 
The 3-Door is roughly as expensive as the 5-Door.
Still, Saturn can use NA GM engines, so the price will probably drop by about $1k (more or less). Hopefully that will be it, but GM is going to cheapen the interior as they always do (it has to be a GM right?).
If we get the Astra made in Brazil (or somewhere around there - it's the same as the European one, just that it's called a Chevy Astra) IT'S OKAY, JUST DON'T CHANGE A THING... PLEASE GM! The Brazilian Astra is probably cheaper, so it will fit the American buyer better than the Euro made car.
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Saturn Astra by chrisducati
Oct 24, 2006 (3:50 am)
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I'm sure most of you that have been following the Astra have seen the photos of the 4 door sedan GM put together for the USA. It was shown in Turkey. Basically it is a slightly restyled version of the last generation Astra. Think Chevy Cobalt with a different rear quarter panel treatment and Aura like headlights. I understand they needed a 4 door sedan for the US market but boy this is not what I expected! Very conservative styling. Oh well, As long as they still bring the 3 and 5 door hatch to the USA untouched I'm buying.
 
here is the car in testing. It will be the Brazilian market Chevy Vectra

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