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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [sonatabean] by nippononly
May 01, 2006 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: sonatabean (May 01, 2006 10:30 am)

I have to say it again, and I mean it sincerely - after the first five minutes, you will never notice the center-IP layout again for the rest of the time you own the car.
 
Plus, consider that in the Yaris, the speedo is HUGE if you get the model with the Optitron gauge without the tach. It is like twice the size of the big center speedo in the Mini.
 
BTW, I watched the ABC news clip you linked to - I have a feeling that these folks that are predicting a $3/gallon FLOOR, rather than ceiling, for gas prices are right on the money. Right now I am paying $3.15/gallon, and that is before the big ramp-up in prices for the summer driving season. I can't see it coming back below $3/gallon here in California after Labor Day. Buy your gas-saver now rather than later.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [nippononly] by kato1
May 01, 2006 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 01, 2006 1:05 pm)

"I have to say it again, and I mean it sincerely - after the first five minutes, you will never notice the center-IP layout again for the rest of the time you own the car."
 
well, i think that you can get used to looking there for your information. however, many of us think it just looks ugly in that spot. i drove an echo a couple years ago as a rental on vacation...2 1/2 weeks later, the center pod still looked ugly to me. yes, i was used to looking there for my info..but that didnt change the fact that it looked ugly to me....having said all that, it would not stop me from buying if i loved all other aspects of any given car.
 
on to the fit. my dealer buddy at evil honda dealership called, said he had 3 manual fits on the lot. so, i went to test drive out of curiosity more than anything. let me preface my following comments with this: i am a toyota guy all the way. i love my corolla. ive never cared for honda.
 
however, the fit was much more than i expected. it looked very cool, much more so than in the pictures. even the non "s" model looked cool enough that it would need no mods(for me, anyway). the interior seemed luxurious compared to the yaris, nice dark material. fabrics on the doors felt nice. i just didnt feel like i was in a subcompact car. even the shift knob and boot looked fairly upscale. the seat configurations are far more versatile than in the yaris. in fact, on the basic yaris, toyota really did nothing to make the hatch seats versatile. on the road, i couldnt push it hard through turns (due to traffic considerations), but on acceleration and at 60 mph, its quiet, moreso than yaris, and the engine didnt sound like it was working as hard.
 
price of a fit manual is $14400 w/ destination. but, as many of you know, the fit is well appointed as is.
 
the yaris hb, without being too loaded, will be cheaper. it will likely get the better mileage as well. unfortunately, AND I HATE TO SAY THIS, in every other aspect i think the fit is better, noticeably so.
 
of course, if you prefer the looks of the yaris over the fit, then thats a point for the fit.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [nippononly] by sonatabean
May 02, 2006 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 01, 2006 1:05 pm)

after the first five minutes, you will never notice the center-IP layout again for the rest of the time you own the car.

 
Actually, both the reviewers here (Edmunds) and Motor trend disagree with you - as do I: that week with the damn Ion drove me insane. I wanted to celebrate the return of my Sonata from the bodyshop (hail damage) by setting the Ion ablaze on top of a hill.
 
Insurance would not cover that, though.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [nippononly] by sonatabean
May 02, 2006 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 01, 2006 1:05 pm)

BTW, I watched the ABC news clip you linked to - I have a feeling that these folks that are predicting a $3/gallon FLOOR, rather than ceiling, for gas prices are right on the money.
 
You had better believe it: if you compare oil futures and current consumption globally, rather than just looking at the USA numbers, the shortage is already pretty serious - the prices here in the USA are not remotely reflecting the overall picture. That said, the prices are currently scrambling to do just that.
 
As for buying the gas-saver now vs. later, financed a new roof and remodel job using an equity loan ARM at variable rate. Given spiraling petroleum costs also mean inflation (and thus interest rate) creep, I have to knock that ARM down first doing double-payments.
 
THEN, the gas-saver.
 
The only other option is going to Mexico and paying a sketchy surgeon to sell a kidney and a lobe of my liver - and I am *NOT* hip to that game!
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [sonatabean] by w9cw
May 02, 2006 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: sonatabean (May 02, 2006 5:04 am)

The center IP stack is not only a distraction, it's also potentially dangerous. Any driver will tell you that a well-designed IP should be in one's line-of-sight of the road ahead of you. Many new IP designs allow one to scan the IP without a major change in focus. This is not the case with a center IP stack. Not only do you have to change focus, but you must move your eyes as well to the center stack. Not good . . . Honda would never do this, nor would a substantial number of other manufacturers.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [w9cw] by brighterdeath
May 02, 2006 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: w9cw (May 02, 2006 6:27 am)

Hi, I could not disagree with you more. It is such a pleasure not to have to try to see through the steering wheel to see the speed. It is without question a more logical placement now.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [kato1] by reddroverr
May 02, 2006 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: kato1 (May 01, 2006 3:05 pm)

That isn't surprising. The Fit is getting good marks from a lot of sources. Did that 14.4k include A/C? I haven't seen one in person...but the pics are utt bugly IMO.
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Re: Yaris, Corolla, oy - choices [reddroverr] by hungarian83
May 02, 2006 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: reddroverr (May 02, 2006 12:08 pm)

It includes A/C, PW/PM/PL, CD, and all of the safety equipment. No cruise control or keyless entry for the base model though.
 
You should go see one in person. I have seen lots of cars that seem ugly in pictures, but in person are nice looking.
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Re: Yaris vs. Corolla [kato1] by brucepadgett
May 09, 2006 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: kato1 (Apr 10, 2006 7:02 pm)

I currently own an '06 Corolla CE, but have experienced undue bumpiness due to the anti-roll stabilizer bar at the back suspension. Per a thread on toyotanation.com, the 9th-generation Corollas use this setup instead of a multi-link independent suspension. The advantage is that the ride is smoothed out, unless the road is bumpy. Any bump causes vibrations to travel the width of the car in the rear since the flexible metal beam runs from one end to the other. IOW my '99 Corolla was a better driving experience! (IMHO)
 
I've tested the liftback and sedan Yaris models, and feel strongly that the latter Yaris has a smoother ride than the '06 Corolla, in that the bumps are absorbed better. I will concede that on a well-paved road the Corolla wins. But overall the Yaris sedan provides a more consistent driving experience since I'm not being jarred as severely on rougher sections of the road. I'll be testing the liftback again soon as my first impression found the ride as unpleasant as the Corolla's.
 
BTW when I tested the Scion xA for a second time, the ride felt as jarring as the Corolla. Yuck.
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Re: Yaris vs. Corolla [brucepadgett] by lhanson
Jul 14, 2006 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: brucepadgett (May 09, 2006 3:24 pm)

Yesterday I drove my son's 1997 Corolla back and forth to work. Today when I got back into my Yaris Hatchback, I felt like I was driving a minivan. I think that the illusion is caused by the large area between the steering wheel and the windshield and the much higher seating position. I think that the Yaris seats are more comfortable, and the engine seems to have more zip. The whole interior seems larger with more seating room in the back seats too. I also get at least 10 MPG more with the Yaris.

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